ET Jay #1 Teuthonia Secret Passage ???

[Snake in the Grass]

Context 

On first stage, the allies on attack needs to rush the tank and repair it, which secures the spawn change.

There are one main route, through 2 big gates, ajar,

and a second route, through the tank barrier and coming from behind.

There is an extra 3rd route, initially closed, the so-called "Secret Passage" with one switch inside, to give direct access to the tank to repair;

 

As it is a good additional route for allies, strategically speaking it should never be opened by axis, it is counter productive for them. However, for some reasons, the map allows Axis to open it.

 

Admins are now tempted to tweak the map  for Jay1 rotation, to cancel out the issue of Axis opening it.

 

Any player who knows the map and has an opinion on the topic is welcome to vote, i.e. other ET servers players welcome ofc.

 

 

 

[mAw]

Hi Snake,
I think it's fully part of the map.
Strategically speaking, it is often thanks to this passage that allies can progress towards repairing the tank, which they would not be able to do otherwise.
In jay1, respawn times and travel times (thanks to double jump) being greatly reduced, the way to the tank is nearly impossible without this third pathway when the game has over something like 12v12+ players.
Take goldrush for instance (which this map shares a lot of similarities with): the tank courtyard has a main entrance through the big door, a back way and a side path. All of those are wide open and it gives interesting defensive and offensive options.

I see your vote as a false choice, personally I wouldn't change the way it currently is!

Edited May 4 by mAw

[Snake in the Grass]

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[Lusciousdrunk]

50 minutes ago, mAw said:

Strategically speaking, it is often thanks to this passage that allies can progress towards repairing the tank, which they would not be able to do otherwise.

The passage is closed 90% of the time and the 10% time it is open an axis player is the one who pressed it. Allies have almost a 0% chance of reaching that button. I’m not saying it can’t be done, but the more players on the server the harder it becomes. 

[RedBaird]

18 minutes ago, Lusciousdrunk said:

Allies have almost a 0% chance of reaching that button. I’m not saying it can’t be done,

 

I think that an Ally would have to at least go around the Looong way and sneak in, probably with a stolen uniform.  The bots are always fooled by undercover covies, but the humans much less so.  It is worth the effort and a "big rush" when one can do it.  

 

The last time I went through the opened door, there was a "Holy 💩" number of Axis defending that route!  😮 

24 minutes ago, Snake in the Grass said:

Quick bump

 

Dayam Snake!  Did you have an AI do that mass notification?  😮 

 

Nah, looks like a human bespoke effort!  😄 :salute: 

[Blunt]

As much as I dislike Axis opening the secret door as it can't ever be closed again, to me it is part of the map and a goal for a covie to accomplish. 

I would be more a fan of adding a sign warning once open door cannot be closed. 

[Snake in the Grass]

40 minutes ago, RedBaird said:

[...]

Nah, looks like a human bespoke effort!  😄 :salute: 

It really was.. for the FAmily !!

 

I regret though many regulars dont have a forum account, or possibly they have one unrelated to their in-game name : Kabi, escorpion, Pachirra, Disguised Dundee, USA The Abbot, BoneCrusher, etc...

[Bunny]

In my opinion that path should be opened automatically when clock hits 20:00 or so, if allies hasnt repaired the tank until then. Otherwise its pretty much just 30minutes of fragfest for axis just like oasis is 90% of the times its played on full server 

[Lusciousdrunk]

1 hour ago, Snake in the Grass said:

escorpion

@Betinho

[Cross Marian]

59 minutes ago, Bunny said:

In my opinion that path should be opened automatically when clock hits 20:00 or so, if allies hasnt repaired the tank until then. Otherwise its pretty much just 30minutes of fragfest for axis just like oasis is 90% of the times its played on full server 

I like this idea. If after 10 (or 12) minutes allies have not repaired the tank, then the back door automatically opens, providing additional help for allies.

And I would add that if possible, it would be nice to remove the capacity for Axis to press the button, only Allies should be able to press it.

 

[mraw435]

I tend to agree with many of the comments provided already -- if it was a different map then I would be more outspoken with the button being pressed and giving advantage to the opposing team. Teuthonia is already a difficult map for allies (i think allies win it even less than gold rush!) and an axis player either intentionally or unintentionally opening the side passage gives the allies a usually necessary 3rd route to get the tank and move past a significant bottle neck 

 

[PHNTM]

12 hours ago, Bunny said:

In my opinion that path should be opened automatically when clock hits 20:00 or so, if allies hasnt repaired the tank until then. Otherwise its pretty much just 30minutes of fragfest for axis just like oasis is 90% of the times its played on full server 

How does it feel to be the smartest guy in the room?

[Johnwick]

On full serv there is prolly 1 axis player who dont know what does that button do,so they open it . Or someone will tell ,that youl get cookie or free xp for it . Been rushing and jumping there as allied covie , it will take some time but i can do it 

[Daddy]

12 hours ago, Bunny said:

In my opinion that path should be opened automatically when clock hits 20:00 or so, if allies hasnt repaired the tank until then. Otherwise its pretty much just 30minutes of fragfest for axis just like oasis is 90% of the times its played on full server 

I agree with @Bunny

Thats is a real thats happening in this map, if the automatic open door after minutes, can be turn easy to allies and remember, repair the tank is the first campaing in this map, and no always is signal of won to allies

[Snake in the Grass]

13 hours ago, Bunny said:

In my opinion that path should be opened automatically when clock hits 20:00 or so, if allies hasnt repaired the tank until then. Otherwise its pretty much just 30minutes of fragfest for axis just like oasis is 90% of the times its played on full server 

 

That's what etdo1 underground passage does (first stage), as well as etdo6 (final stage, to the oil valve)

In both case, to make it easier if the attacking team is struggling

 

This is also the option i prefer.