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Some interesting stuff: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

"Yet if the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority of the extra deaths may not be due to coronavirus but to other common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, trauma, bleeding, and the like that are not adequately treated. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic activity."

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On 3/23/2020 at 8:33 AM, mcbeth said:

DD hope your are oki with your family , stay safe

Cathleen

All good. Thank you. I hope all is fine with your family as well. Take care.

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Bad news... a friend of my family have coronavirus... so quaritained for 14 days 0.0 

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3 minutes ago, Leatherface said:

I find it strange that Italy France and Spain have the most casualties

Easy; for now we have like 20 degrees so people are on the beach and they are stupid...

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On 3/14/2020 at 11:08 AM, RedBaird said:

Thank you for that "good expression".  The news media here in the USA seems to be more 'informative' now, and doing less 'bombing'. (Less like Social Media, that is.)

 

Rumors are 'exploding' on Social Media, such as that the virus was the work of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, that the Wuhan-Virus was the work of US Army persons who had traveled to Whuhan in October for the " Military World Games" in Wuhan.  I stopped all searching right here...

 

Event 201

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

 

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/index.html

The Event 201 scenario

Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.

The disease starts in pig farms in Brazil, quietly and slowly at first, but then it starts to spread more rapidly in healthcare settings. When it starts to spread efficiently from person to person in the low-income, densely packed neighborhoods of some of the megacities in South America, the epidemic explodes. It is first exported by air travel to Portugal, the United States, and China and then to many other countries. Although at first some countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control.

 

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html

Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise

In October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted a pandemic tabletop exercise called Event 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Recently, the Center for Health Security has received questions about whether that pandemic exercise predicted the current novel coronavirus outbreak in China. To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic. We are not now predicting that the nCoV-2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people. Although our tabletop exercise included a mock novel coronavirus, the inputs we used for modeling the potential impact of that fictional virus are not similar to nCoV-2019.

 

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/center-news/2020-01-24-Statement-of-Clarification-Event201.html

 

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/event201-resources/CAPS-fact-sheet-191009.pdf

 

 

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Sad man.

 

Jeff Bezos, World’s Richest Man, Wants Your Donations To Help Amazon Employees

A man worth over $100 billion, who makes, on average, $230,000 per minute calling on the public to help his own impoverished employees was not met well by many.

 

https://www.mintpressnews.com/jeff-bezos-wants-donations-help-amazon-employees-coronavirus/265962/

 

 

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National Center for Biotechnology Information

 

Potential False-Positive Rate Among the 'Asymptomatic Infected Individuals' in Close Contacts of COVID-19 Patients

 

Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/?fbclid=IwAR1x58i9MUS16isOtdzAOJHr1TZNpVz4kw-6S5mtyRG_MUg3XVK_RajavAI

 

 

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I heard a News Reader on a US Cable news network say today that the USA had tested more people in 8 days that South Korea had tested in 8 weeks, or some 7 times "faster".

 

That sounds impressive, until you realize that S.Korea has a population of some 51.27 million people, while the USA has some 331 millions.

 

331 / 51.3 = 6.45, so South Korea had actually tested their population at a faster proportional rate than did the USA.  Of course, the USA still has some 7 weeks to go to match the 8-week period of the S.Korean efforts, so it might end up with a faster 'rate' in both senses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is a good site for stats and updates in real time. As you can see Italy is in the shit.

 

https://coronaworld.eu/

 

This site is gone now, and may have been a "CoronaVirus Phishing Site".  Some had reported it as such.

 

 

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