ET Jay #1 3 Maps Panzer rule

[m00jii]

As a regular, I see this causing you more worries then results. Who will keep count of how long a person has had panzer? What if server doesn't have an admin for some period of time and then a admin joins , someone trolls that this someone is panzer hogging. That makes you ask around and possibly do extra activities to verify if it is so. 

[-=HipKat=-]

23 minutes ago, D..X said:

 

 

can you please finish a thought and type your whole message in one post why 3 seperate ones? nobody on the the planet replies that way but you we all dont need 3 notifications just for you to type 5 words and hit enter i have asked you before to refrain from that but ofc that would require listening.. 

Number one I don’t remember you ever saying that to me, but you may have a number two because I didn’t reply to all three at the same time. Sorry that three posts on a message board ruined your day

[L3ftY.]

my opinion...

 

It's going to be a hard rule to enforce unless admin are constantly watching who has it and ...how many maps was that again? I can honestly think of better things to do.

 

 

@Nancy the rule was never cancelled, but it was never really enforced either. It was just put in place because of certain players 'hogging' the panzer map after map, and only was happening on J1 I believe at that time. On HC and S1 there are a couple pf players that hog it, but no one else really wants the 'noob tube' anyway

 

 

[tipsy]

18 minutes ago, m00jii said:

As a regular, I see this causing you more worries then results. Who will keep count of how long a person has had panzer? What if server doesn't have an admin for some period of time and then a admin joins , someone trolls that this someone is panzer hogging. That makes you ask around and possibly do extra activities to verify if it is so. 

It's same for  most of the rule.  It's same for shuffle , stacking, unbalance teams etc. We are trying to recruit more peeps to keep server good. Also  rule  is so that more peeps can use it, so when we an admin do notice somebody using panzer for more than 3 maps, he can ask the particular player to share it "as per rule". Without telling him it's a rule I doubt he will give it up.  They will learn to let it go. This 12hrs of hogging panzer needs to end .

 

 

[D..X]

22 minutes ago, -=HipKat=- said:

Sorry that three posts on a message board ruined your day

   

That just made my day the day anything you say or do ruins my day i'll buy you a beer, hope your not thirsty.😘

[-=HipKat=-]

14 minutes ago, D..X said:

 

That just made my day the day anything you say or do ruins my day i'll buy you a beer, hope your not thirsty.😘

And yet, ET3 did the exact same thing right before I did, three posts in a row and you didn’t feel the need to climb up his ass. So obviously I did ruin your day, and piss off with your need to pick on me to single out. Oooppps!

 

By the way, I’m a big fan of Labatt blue since I can’t get it in central Illinois

 

As a sidenote, I often find it amusing that a group of people who are compulsive about playing a game where they kill each other  And blow each other to bits find me to be too edgy.

Edited April 9, 2020 by -=HipKat=-

[K.LisTa]

• Child 1 : Drop the panzer, you had it 3 maps in a row !
• Child 2 : No I didn't.
• Child 1 : Yes, you must give it to someone else !
• Child 2 :No, this is my third map.
• Child 1 : No, you're lying. Admins, do something !!!!!11!!
• Child 2 : You're the one lying, you just can't stand being owned !
• Child 1 : Admins !!!! you're uselesss, as usual .....

 

Ah, the memories...

 

Have fun with that, folks.

[CheepHeep]

I think its being over complicated. Like any rule, an admin has to witness it or you have to provide proof. If someone insults someone, an admin cant just warn, mute, kick or ban without seeing it for himself or unless he is provided with proof. Same with panzer hogging, if an admin notices someone has used a panzer more than 3 maps in a row and someone else wants to use it, that admin has the right to tell him to give it up. If someone is accusing a player of using it for more than 3 maps but an admin didn't witness it, then that person has to provide proof. Not ideal in the moment but if the panzer hogger turns out to be lying, lets say there will be consequences so it wont happen again.  Its simple. Most people will oblige. Only a few will cause issues but thats what we are here for.

 

Respectfully, we dont need luck. I believe in the admins abilities to properly enforce it. People might not listen straight away but they will learn to.

Edited April 9, 2020 by CheepHeep

[LazyHippo]

I see its a reasonable measure to take upon some panzer hoggers, there will be whining for some, more rule breakers, etc.

Obvious problems for the rule are already mentioned like what happens if admin not around or regulars online are not honest between them?

By the time we will hopefuly see this is the correct way of playing but think its implementation will take some time.

[-=HipKat=-]

I guess it’s too much to ask that players just play fair. Not everybody who plays comes to the forum, so those are the people who should probably resist the most but, if players other than Admin just remind people who are keeping it for more than three maps that there is a rule now that’s being enforced and take screenshots or demos of anybody who refuses, then this should stop being an issue relatively soon. Or go to Discord and find an admin and if that’s too much trouble then deal with it

[CabaL]

3 hours ago, CheepHeep said:

Respectfully, we dont need luck. I believe in the admins abilities to properly enforce it. People might not listen straight away but they will learn to.

No one can reasonably expect every panzer player to immediately jump on board with the rule. It's gonna take time, proper enforcement (and consistent when admins are present). Maybe for the "more serious violators" should have a note kept in an admin section on discord or forums on how many times a player gets put spec, kicked, etc.

 

7 hours ago, ET3 said:

@CabaL One the the top whiners that just cant take getting blasted 20 times a game< go give wolf a hug.

!hug @Wolf not sure how this relates but.....

 

 

 

Too bad there isnt a script that DD can put in that limits panzer usage, without need of an admin.

[CheepHeep]

6 minutes ago, CabaL said:

No one can reasonably expect every panzer player to immediately jump on board with the rule. It's gonna take time, proper enforcement (and consistent when admins are present). Maybe for the "more serious violators" should have a note kept in an admin section on discord or forums on how many times a player gets put spec, kicked, etc

Yep, thats why I said they will learn to. Realistically, this will only effect a few people so I don't see too much of an issue. The admins on a server generally know who the panzer players are and will just simply have to be aware of when they use it - it doesn't take that much effort to do that. Ex - for Hardcore where I usually play I know who the main guys that use panzer are so I can easily just enforce it if I notice the rule being violated. I understand not every violation is going to be caught but thats the same for every single rule we have.
 

I must ask, is this just for jay1 though. I don't think its that much of an issue on others, at least on HC anyway.

Edited April 9, 2020 by CheepHeep

[CabaL]

2 minutes ago, CheepHeep said:

Yep, thats why I said they will learn to. Realistically, this will only effect a few people so I don't see too much of an issue. The admins on a server generally know who the panzer players are and will just simply have to be aware of when they use it - it doesn't take that much effort to do that. Ex - for Hardcore why I usually play I know who the main guys that use panzer are so I can easily just enforce it if I notice the rule being violated. 
 

I must ask, is this just for jay1 though. I don't think its that much of an issue on others, at least on HC anyway.

I'm assuming a Jay 1 rule? AFAIK its the only server where this is a major issue.

 

Also, it can be helpful for a lot of the admins to know and have a trust thing with some of the non members such as myself. Tipsy asked me last night how long Jstudentdude had panzer who had it for about half a map worth of time.

[von Rantala]

I can give you jay2 panzer. We dont need it 😁

 

Anyway common sense is best in this, as as it is mosts things in world. Why not to share panzer? Even three map in my view sounds way too much. That could be even 1,5h to 3h. All dont have more than 1 hour gaming time. What is so difficult on sharing panzer with others? If you know you will be gaming next 3 hours and there is someone who asking panzer, why you cant give to him for map and then he would give to u after one map?

 

Maybe those panzer hoggers could donate some money for clan, who provide them servers which they play everyday.  Maybe then we might offer you panzer server, where you can play with panzer all they long. I don't get ppls who never donate to our clan, but come complaint on something, when we try make servers better. If i would get free meal everyday, i wouldn't go and complaint, i would be happy for it.

 

@tipsyIf it would be me, i would only take account votes/feedback from those who donate for clan or is members, who playing in jay1.

[ET3]

I am always willing to share the weapon when asked.  My question is, when I have been playing for a couple hours and then finally get the panzer, the teams are shuffled and I lose it before I even have a chance to play. or just 1-2 rounds?

  What is the point to that?