FPS Drops

[Barn!e]

port forward the router for ET

 

make sure you have enough hunk and soundmegs

[inf3rno]

At last I managed to film it:

Normally it is not possible to reproduce it this clearly.

[inf3rno]

Here is the same video slowed down. It is easier to notice here that the weapon shows up a lot later than it should:

 

[inf3rno]

Here is a video about people appearing from thin air:

On some days this happens frequently, on other days only the hitbox is off. The same happens on every server even with ET Legacy.

Edited December 3, 2020 by inf3rno

[captnconcrete]

post the cfg you are using???

[MikeSlayer]

@inf3rno

try both its one of these

/cg_predictitems 1
/cg_optimizeprediction 1

[ElEl]

I have this exact same problem 😕 I thought it was just me so I never really bothered looking into it. I'm playing on wireless so I figured it had something to do with that. Also the TCP optimiser may be worth looking into.

1 minute ago, MikeSlayer said:

/cg_predictitems 1
/cg_optimizeprediction 1

Both of these are set to 1 for me and by default. Don't think this is the cause.

[daredevil]

19 minutes ago, ElEl said:

Also the TCP optimiser may be worth looking into.

 

Game uses UDP, so TCP wouldn't help. 

 

@inf3rno Have you tried GPU related settings? Thanks

[ElEl]

I found this, maybe it could help? https://web.archive.org/web/20100308085808/http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/connection.html

 

Quote

cl_timenudge  

This is similar to pushlatency in HalfLife, defaults to 0 which is our suggested setting for online play. In Quake3 it is normally used for offline bot practice by using a positive value that is the same as average ping. However, a positive value can also be used to stabilize displayed frames with gameworld updates(snaps) and negative values are reported to adjust client side prediction.

 

We strongly suggest you leave cl_timenudge at 0 for online play. However If you do wish to alter cl_timenudge to adjust client side prediction then try a negative value that is 25% to 50% of your average ping. Example if you are currently pinging 100 to the server then experiment with a setting between -25 to -50 as your cl_timenudge value. Note that if you are using a negative value for cl_timenudge the top graph in cg_lagometer may be mostly yellow.

 

A positive value may help if you have problems with gameworld updates (snaps) not being rendered in time. Try a small positive cl_timenudge value of 5,10,15 or 20 never higher. See cg_lagometer for an explanation of how to determine if gameworld updates are not being rendered in time.

 

My understanding of networks is absolutely awful 😅.

I'll test timenudge 10 and see if the issue goes away.

[inf3rno]

17 hours ago, MikeSlayer said:

@inf3rno

try both its one of these

/cg_predictitems 1
/cg_optimizeprediction 1

Thanks!
I'll try these, they are zero currently.
 

As of the lag, somebody just wrote on a different forum, that it is region dependent and it is like sending everything in a mega packet instead of many small packets, so maybe it is a network problem indeed. At least that would explain it for me, that I am out of sync with the server for 1-300 msec and after that I suddenly die or people, sounds, hits, etc. suddenly show up.

[captnconcrete]

18 hours ago, ElEl said:

I found this, maybe it could help? https://web.archive.org/web/20100308085808/http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/connection.html

 

 

My understanding of networks is absolutely awful 😅.

I'll test timenudge 10 and see if the issue goes away.

i messed with timnudge a bunch ... dont think its ur problem. i have it too ..lol ive found  if i play with certain people it does it but doesnt do it to all. i chalked it up to them not me.lol shatter is worst one for me. he teleports all around  . and isnt in every frame. optimized prediction  setting to 0 helped a bit. me an xern worked to gether on this few yrs back. i had to go thru like 4 or 5 diff gpu drivers till i found a decent one.

Edited December 4, 2020 by captnconcrete

[inf3rno]

1 hour ago, captnconcrete said:

i messed with timnudge a bunch ... dont think its ur problem. i have it too ..lol ive found  if i play with certain people it does it but doesnt do it to all. i chalked it up to them not me.lol shatter is worst one for me. he teleports all around  . and isnt in every frame. optimized prediction  setting to 0 helped a bit. me an xern worked to gether on this few yrs back. i had to go thru like 4 or 5 diff gpu drivers till i found a decent one.

I doubt that changing settings will do anything about this, but I'll still try. The cg_predictitems won't do much about it. The cg_optimizeprediction might have some effect, who knows.

23 hours ago, captnconcrete said:

post the cfg you are using???

set cg_draw2D "1"
set b_mapzoom "5.159"
set cg_mapzoom "5.159"
set b_tjg_ghostfx "2"
set b_logbanners "1"
set b_demo_pvshint "0"
set b_demorecord_statusline "470"
set b_speedunit "0"
set b_drawspectatoralpha "1.0"
set b_demo_playersprites "1"
set b_demo_teamonlymissilecam "0"
set b_tracers "0"
set cg_tracers "0"
set b_demo_nopitch "1"
set b_predefineddemokeys "1"
set b_speedinterval "100"
set b_drawspeed "0"
set b_tjl_stepsize "0.5"
set b_tjl_showmaxspeed "0"
set b_tjl_color "green"
set b_tjl_stoponnomove "1"
set b_cmdwarnings "1"
set b_tjl_draw "1"
set b_panzerhack "1"
set b_muzzleflash "0"
set cg_muzzleFlash "0"
set b_demo_rollspeed "140"
set b_demo_pitchturnspeed "140"
set b_demo_yawturnspeed "140"
set b_demo_followzDistance "20"
set b_demo_followyDistance "0"
set b_demo_followxDistance "50"
set b_demo_dynamitecounter "0"
set b_demo_nametags "0"
set b_shovesounds "1"
set b_chatsounds "0"
set b_hitsounds "1"
set cg_hitsounds "1"
set b_textcolorfilter ""
set b_goatsound "1"
set b_debugfakebmodel "0"
set ui_browserShowETPro "1"
set r_smp "0" unsafe
set r_mode "-1" unsafe
set r_depthbits "0" unsafe
set r_stencilbits "0" unsafe
set r_stereo "0" unsafe
set r_colorbits "0" unsafe
set r_texturebits "0" unsafe
set r_clampToEdge "1" unsafe
set r_ext_texture_env_add "1" unsafe
set r_nv_fogdist_mode "GL_EYE_RADIAL_NV" unsafe
set r_ext_NV_fog_dist "0" unsafe
set r_ext_texture_filter_anisotropic "0" unsafe
set r_ati_fsaa_samples "1" unsafe
set r_ati_truform_pointmode "GL_PN_TRIANGLES_POINT_MODE_LINEAR" unsafe
set r_ati_truform_normalmode "GL_PN_TRIANGLES_NORMAL_MODE_LINEAR" unsafe
set r_ati_truform_tess "1" unsafe
set r_ext_ATI_pntriangles "0" unsafe
set r_glIgnoreWicked3D "0" unsafe
set r_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1" unsafe
set r_ext_multitexture "1" unsafe
set r_ext_gamma_control "1" unsafe
set r_ext_compressed_textures "1" unsafe
set r_allowExtensions "1" unsafe
set r_glDriver "opengl32" unsafe
set com_hunkMegs "512"
set com_maxfps "125"
set logfile "1"
set timescale "51"
set com_watchdog "60"
set com_watchdog_cmd ""
set com_introplayed "1"
set com_recommendedSet "1"
set in_midi "0"
set in_midiport "1"
set in_midichannel "1"
set in_mididevice "0"
set in_mouse "-1"
set in_joystick "0"
set in_joyBallScale "0.02"
set joy_threshold "0.15"
set vm_cgame "0"
set vm_game "0"
set vm_ui "0"
set dmflags "0"
set scr_conspeed "999"
set con_debug "0"
set con_autoclear "1"
set cl_nodelta "0"
set cl_autoupdate "1"
set cl_timeNudge "0"
set cl_yawspeed "140"
set cl_pitchspeed "140"
set cl_maxpackets "125"
set cl_packetdup "5"
set cl_run "1"
set cl_mouseAccel "0"
set cl_freelook "1"
set cl_allowDownload "1"
set cl_wwwDownload "1"
set cg_autoswitch "0.0000"
set cg_wolfparticles "0.0000"
set r_inGameVideo "1"
set cg_recoilPitch "0"
set cl_doubletapdelay "0"
set m_pitch "0.016"
set m_yaw "0.022"
set m_forward "0.2500"
set m_side "0.2500"
set m_filter "0"
set cl_maxPing "999.00"
set cg_drawCompass "1"
set cg_drawNotifyText "1"
set cg_quickMessageAlt "1"
set cg_popupLimboMenu "0"
set cg_descriptiveText "1"
set cg_drawTeamOverlay "2"
set cg_drawGun "1"
set cg_cursorHints "4.0000"
set cg_voiceSpriteTime "6000"
set cg_drawCrosshair "5"
set cg_zoomDefaultSniper "55.000"
set cg_zoomstepsniper "10.0000"
set rate "25000"
set snaps "20"
set cl_anonymous "0"
set cl_punkbuster "1"
set cg_predictItems "0.0000"
set cg_autoactivate "1.0000"
set cg_viewsize "100.00"
set cg_autoReload "0"
set cl_language "0"
set r_uiFullScreen "0"
set r_picmip "2"
set r_roundImagesDown "5"
set r_rmse "0.0000"
set r_detailtextures "0"
set r_overBrightBits "0"
set r_ignorehwgamma "0"
set r_oldMode ""
set r_fullscreen "1"
set r_customwidth "2560"
set r_customheight "1440"
set r_customaspect "1"
set r_simpleMipMaps "1"
set r_subdivisions "12"
set r_ignoreFastPath "0"
set r_mapOverBrightBits "3"
set r_intensity "1.5"
set r_lodCurveError "250"
set r_lodbias "0"
set r_flares "0"
set r_znear "3"
set r_ignoreGLErrors "1"
set r_fastsky "1"
set r_drawSun "0"
set r_dynamiclight "0"
set r_dlightBacks "0"
set r_finish "1"
set r_textureMode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
set r_swapInterval "0"
set r_gamma "1.7"
set r_facePlaneCull "1"
set r_railWidth "32"
set r_railCoreWidth "16"
set r_railSegmentLength "64"
set r_primitives "2"
set r_ambientScale "0.5"
set r_directedScale "1"
set r_nocurves "0"
set r_lodscale "5"
set r_nocull "0"
set r_showtris "0"
set r_trisColor "1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0"
set r_showsky "0"
set r_normallength "0.5"
set r_clear "0"
set cg_shadows "0"
set r_highQualityVideo "0"
set r_lastValidRenderer
set r_allowSoftwareGL "0"
set vid_xpos "0"
set vid_ypos "0"
set s_volume "1.0"
set s_musicvolume "0.000000"
set s_separation "0.5000"
set s_doppler "0.0000"
set s_khz "22"
set s_mixahead "0.2000"
set s_mixPreStep "0.0900"
set s_defaultsound "0.0000"
set s_wavonly "0.0000"
set s_initsound "1"
set com_soundMegs "256"
set ui_glCustom "4"
set ui_ffa_fraglimit "20"
set ui_ffa_timelimit "0"
set ui_team_fraglimit "0"
set ui_team_timelimit "20"
set ui_team_friendly "1"
set ui_ctf_capturelimit "8"
set ui_ctf_timelimit "30"
set ui_ctf_friendly "0"
set ui_teamArenaFirstRun "1"
set ui_master "0"
set cg_brassTime "0"
set cg_drawCrosshairNames "1001.0"
set cg_drawCrosshairPickups "0.0000"
set cg_marktime "0.0000"
set ui_dedicated "0"
set cg_selectedPlayer "1"
set cg_selectedPlayerName ""
set ui_netSource "1"
set ui_menuFiles "ui/menus.txt"
set ui_gametype "3"
set ui_joinGametype "0"
set ui_netGametype "3"
set ui_mapIndex "4"
set ui_currentMap "6"
set ui_currentNetMap "6"
set ui_browserMaster "0"
set ui_browserGameType "0"
set ui_browserSortKey "4"
set ui_browserShowEmptyOrFull "0"
set ui_browserShowPasswordProtected "0"
set ui_browserShowFriendlyFire "0"
set ui_browserShowMaxlives "1"
set ui_browserShowPunkBuster "0"
set ui_browserShowAntilag "0"
set ui_browserShowWeaponsRestricted "0"
set ui_browserShowTeamBalanced "0"
set ui_serverStatusTimeOut "7000"
set cg_drawBuddies "1"
set cg_drawRoundTimer "1"
set cg_showblood "1"
set cg_bloodFlash "0"
set cg_noAmmoAutoSwitch "1.0000"
set cg_useWeapsForZoom "1.0000"
set cg_complaintPopUp "0"
set cg_announcer "1.0000"
set cg_printObjectiveInfo "1.0000"
set cg_useScreenshotJPEG "1.0000"
set cg_drawReinforcementTime "1.0000"
set cg_crosshairPulse "0"
set cg_crosshairAlpha "0.9"
set cg_coronafardist "0.0000"
set ui_currentCampaign "0"
set ui_currentNetCampaign "0"
set ui_campaignIndex "0"
set ui_currentCampaignCompleted "0"
set cg_crosshairAlphaAlt "1.0"
set ui_r_mode ""
set ui_r_gamma ""
set ui_rate ""
set ui_handedness "0"
set ui_sensitivity ""
set ui_profile_mousePitch "0"
set ui_showtooltips "1"
set com_recommended "3"
set net_noudp "0"
set net_noipx "1"
set net_socksEnabled "0"
set net_socksServer ""
set net_socksPort "1080"
set net_socksUsername ""
set net_socksPassword ""
set cl_heronversion "2.01"
set cl_heron "0"
set ui_r_texturemode ""
set ui_r_detailtextures ""
set ui_r_dynamiclight ""
set ui_r_ext_compressed_textures ""
set ui_r_depthbits ""
set ui_r_texturebits ""
set ui_r_picmip "3"
set ui_r_subdivisions ""
set ui_r_lodbias ""
set ui_r_colorbits ""
set cg_fastSolids "1"
set cg_atmosphericEffects "0"
set demo_infoWindow "1"
set cg_specSwing "0"
set cg_specHelp "1"
set cg_bobyaw "0.000"
set cg_drawping "0"
set gl_polyblend "0"
set cg_autoshootcyclicrate "900"
set cg_cyclicrate "900"
set r_fullbright "3"
set r_coronas "0"
set run_roll "0"
set run_pitch "0"
set pb_system "0"
set pb_sleep "500"
set cg_smoothplayers "0"
set cg_marks "0"
set cg_drawsky "0"
set bob_up "0"
set bob_roll "0"
set bob_pitch "0"
set cg_textNotify "1"
set r_mippic "3"
set s_compression "1.0000"
set s_loadas8bit "1.0000"
set r_ext_compress_textures "1"
set cg_DrawDamage "0"
set cg_impactvibration "0"
set cg_damagekick "0"
set cg_fallkick "0"
set cg_drawfallkick "0"
set cg_drawdamagekick "0"
set cf_wstopshots "1.1000"
set mv_sensitivity "10.000"
set ch_font "0"
set cg_muzzleFlash "1"
set cg_drawWeaponIconFlash "1.0000"
set cg_autoAction "0"
set cf_wtopshots "0.9"
set cf_wstats "1.2000"
set cg_deferPlayers "1.0000"
set cm_playerCurveClip "1"
set cg_noTaunt "0.0000"
set cg_bloodTime "0.0000"
set cg_bloodDamageBlend "0"
set com_blood "1"
set cg_drawRewards "0.0000"
set cg_drawAttacker "0.0000"
set cg_drawAmmoWarning "1.0000"
set cg_drawIcons "1.0000"
set cg_draw3dIcons "0.0000"
set cg_drawSnapshot "0.0000"
set cg_drawFPS "1.0000"
set cg_drawTimer "0.0000"
set cg_drawStatus "1.0000"
set cg_drawFrags "1.0000"
set cg_drawSpreadScale "0.0000"
set cg_gibs "0.0000"
set cg_zoomStepFG "10.000"
set cg_zoomStepSnooper "5.0000"
set cg_zoomStepBinoc "3.0000"
set cg_zoomDefaultFG "55.000"
set cg_zoomDefaultSnooper "40.000"
set cg_zoomDefaultBinoc "45.000"
set cg_zoomfov "40.000"
set cg_fov "110"
set overlayMode_off "cg_drawTeamOverlay 0; set overlayMode vstr overlayMode_onShort"
set overlayMode_onShort "cg_drawTeamOverlay 1; set overlayMode vstr overlayMode_onLong"
set overlayMode_onLong "cg_drawTeamOverlay 2; set overlayMode vstr overlayMode_off"
set overlayMode "vstr overlayMode_off"
set cg_uselessNostalgia "0"
set r_lowMemTextureSize "2048"
set r_vertexLight "1"
set cg_railTrailTime "400"
set cg_drawAllWeaps "1.0000"
set cg_cycleAllWeaps "0.0000"
set cg_crosshairY "0.0000"
set cg_crosshairX "0.0000"
set cg_crosshairHealth "0.0000"
set cg_coronas "1.0000"
set cg_reticleBrightness "0.7000"
set cg_reticleType "1.0000"
set cg_simpleItems "1.0000"
set cg_hudAlpha "1.0000"
set cg_drawFPGun "1"
set cg_lagometer "1"
set r_picmip2 "3"
set capturelimit "8"
set sv_screenshake "0"
set ui_tourney_fraglimit "0"
set ui_tourney_timelimit "15"
set cg_stereoSeparation "0.4000"
set r_displayrefresh "144"
set r_displayrefreshrate "144"
set demo_avifpsF1 "0"
set demo_avifpsF2 "10"
set demo_avifpsF3 "15"
set demo_avifpsF4 "20"
set demo_avifpsF5 "24"
set demo_drawTimeScale "0.0000"
set cg_hudFiles "ui_mp/hud.txt"
set model "multi"
set head "default"
set color "4.0000"
set ui_smallFont "0.25"
set ui_bigFont "0.4"
set ui_actualNetGametype "5"
set ui_browserShowFull "1"
set ui_browserShowEmpty "1"
set ui_browserShowTourney "1"
set chfont "0"
set cg_bobroll "0.0000"
set cg_bobpitch "0.0000"
set cg_bobup "0.0000"
set cg_runroll "0.0000"
set cg_runpitch "0.0000"
set mv_sensivity "20"
set pmove_fixed "1"
set cg_cameraOrbitDelay "50.00"
set cg_blinktime "100.00"
set cg_weaponCycleDelay "0.0000"
set cg_teamChatsOnly "0"
set cg_noVoiceChats "0"
set cg_noVoiceText "0"
set cg_teamChatHeight "3.0000"
set cg_teamChatTime "9999"
set cg_emptyswitch "1.0000"
set sex "yes"
set handicap "100.00"
set cg_currentSelectedPlayerName ""
set cg_currentSelectedPlayer "0.0000"
set pb_sv_enable "1"
set r_ext_texenv_add "1"
set r_lightningSegmentLength "32"
set r_ext_swapinterval "0"
set snd "visor"
set cg_instanttapout "0"
set cg_drawFireteamOverlay "1"
set cg_drawSmallPopupIcons "0"
set b_popupTime "0"
set b_altHud "2"
set b_altHudFlags "0"
set b_chatFlags "1"
set b_chatAlpha "0.33"
set b_watermarkAlpha "1"
set b_lagometerAlpha "1.0"
set b_fireteamAlpha "1.0"
set b_drawclock "1"
set b_drawranks "1"
set b_votetextscale "0.8"
set b_numPopups "-1"
set b_descriptiveTextscale "0.8"
set b_hudYoffset "10.0"
set b_popupFadeTime "2500"
set b_popupStayTime "2000"
set com_zoneMegs "512"
set pb_security 0;
set cg_crosshairsize 37;
set cg_drawcrosshair 5;
set cg_crosshairalpha 0;
set cg_crosshairHealth "0"
set cg_crosshairAlphaAlt "1.0"
set cg_crosshairColorAlt "black"
set cg_crosshairAlpha "1.0"
set cg_crosshairColor "cyan"
set cg_crosshairPulse "0"
set b_optimizeprediction 0
set sensitivity 1.5

 

[inf3rno]

On 12/3/2020 at 7:20 PM, MikeSlayer said:

@inf3rno

try both its one of these

/cg_predictitems 1
/cg_optimizeprediction 1

I tried them, they don't help.

[MikeSlayer]

25 minutes ago, inf3rno said:

I tried them, they don't help.

ye sorry i didnt read the entire thread before i posted i only looked at the last couple of posts it seems you have a completely different problem 

look into what DD suggested and check out the video card settings try dif settings for draw frames in advance - run in performance mode - maybe try an updated driver or roll back to an older one change 1 or 2 things at a time then test so u can revert easily if it dosnt help

 

 

[MikeSlayer]

12 hours ago, inf3rno said:

 

As of the lag, somebody just wrote on a different forum, that it is region dependent and it is like sending everything in a mega packet instead of many small packets, so maybe it is a network problem indeed. At least that would explain it for me, that I am out of sync with the server for 1-300 msec and after that I suddenly die or people, sounds, hits, etc. suddenly show up.

 i notice in your et cfg u are using cl_packetdup set to 5        try 1 or 0 this will reduce packet size it may help a little