ET Server Suggestion Jay2 New Maps Suggestions

[captnconcrete]

On 4/25/2021 at 1:53 PM, ElEl said:

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only time i liked this map   is on fun gamedays and on bunker we had it so u only had a knife and map was 5 mins long.. otherwise it killed server faster then  target and his minions

[ElEl]

Here's the current rotation with what I suggest to remove and what to change.

 

supplydepot2, 0, 64,
teuthonia_final, 12, 64,
adlernest, 0, 40,
bba0-beta2, 30, 64, -> We don't get 30 players anymore and this map is too big without that so it's just in rotation without reason
caen2, 0, 52,
haunted_mansion, 24, 52,
frostbite, 0, 40,
fa_italy_b3_fixed, 12, 64,
braundorf_final, 0, 40,
venice_ne4, 8, 64,
pirates, 0, 40,
fa_oasis_b2, 16, 64,
et_beach, 0, 40,
praetoria_m2, 24, 64, -> Either remove or lower to 16, 64. I've yet to see this map appear in rotations as ET Beach never ends with more than 20 people.
sp_delivery_te, 0, 50,
railgun, 24, 64, -> Tugs are too buggy to enjoy this map in my opinion. Buggy tuggys.
et_ice, 12, 50, -> Sitting at -44.
goldrush-gals, 6, 64,
fa_bremen_final, 0, 64,
fa_temple, 24, 64,
desertrats, 20, 64,
library_b3, 12, 64,
ga_el_kef, 0, 12, -> Sitting at -12.
raid_final, 0, 12, -> Been on the server for too long and I see people leave or sit in spec for this map.
school, 16, 50, -> Lower to 12, 50. I rarely see it appear in rotation.
v1rocket_b2, 24, 64, -> Never seen this appear so needs lowering. Maybe 12, 64?
goldrush, 20, 64, -> Replace with GALS and move it so it's in rotation twice and as far from the other GALS as possible. Goldrush brings in players from what I've seen and the base version is impossible for allies.

 

I don't have the most recent scores of all maps, I think it's something DD needs to fix. The only two I've seen in the negative while on the server today were Ice and El Kef so let me know which others are negative please. 

 

Maps to add:

 

 

These 5.

Maybe Glider.

 

Other people's thoughts? What should be the min and max players of the 5 maps posted by @captnconcrete and for glider? I'm not doing all that stuff myself again 😛.

 

@daredevil Is it feasible to make two rotation files and have them swap out automatically on certain days? For example rotation 1 on Monday - Thursday and then rotation 2 on Friday - Sunday.

What do other people think to this idea as well?

Maybe we could have 3 rotations, one just for Sunday with fun maps like the updated golden dunk, baserace and a bunch of CTF maps for example. I dunno, just an idea to change things up and it's something similar to the mini gamedays that Beginners 2 has. Maybe give certain admins level 13 commands just on Sundays somehow. I don't know how that could be automated though given the level database wouldn't be able to update if it's swapping back and forth between 2 versions though right?

 

Also DD could you look into fixing the map_stats.txt and map_ending_stats.txt as they been updated by the server since Dec 2020. Sorry to ask a lot but there's nothing I can do about this stuff.

[-=HipKat=-]

I just want to point something out here, these maps, I never see or almost never see. 

 

bba0-beta2, 30, 64,
haunted_mansion, 24, 52,
praetoria_m2, 24, 64, 
railgun, 24, 64,
fa_temple, 24, 64,
desertrats, 20, 64,
school, 16, 50, 
v1rocket_b2, 24, 64, 
goldrush, 20, 64, -> 

 

 

  

46 minutes ago, ElEl said:

Here's the current rotation with what I suggest

 

@daredevil Is it feasible to make two rotation files and have them swap out automatically on certain days? For example rotation 1 on Monday - Thursday and then rotation 2 on Friday - Sunday.

What do other people think to this idea as well?

Maybe we could have 3 rotations, one just for Sunday with fun maps like the updated golden dunk, baserace and a bunch of CTF maps for example. I dunno, just an idea to change things up and it's something similar to the mini gamedays that Beginners 2 has. Maybe give certain admins level 13 commands just on Sundays somehow. I don't know how that could be automated though given the level database wouldn't be able to update if it's swapping back and forth between 2 versions though right?

 

Also DD could you look into fixing the map_stats.txt and map_ending_stats.txt as they been updated by the server since Dec 2020. Sorry to ask a lot but there's nothing I can do about this stuff.

+1 on two rotations as long as there's a good balance of maps with the ones rarely played, but the busy times isn't so much by days as it is hours. Certain times of day are almost always busy. For me, after work til about 8PM (Central Time) is almost always more busy than mid afternoon

Edited April 28, 2021 by -=HipKat=-

[Gameplan]

20 hours ago, ElEl said:

Here's the current rotation with what I suggest to remove and what to change.

 

supplydepot2, 0, 64,
teuthonia_final, 12, 64,
adlernest, 0, 40,
bba0-beta2, 30, 64, -> We don't get 30 players anymore and this map is too big without that so it's just in rotation without reason Agree - remove
caen2, 0, 52,
haunted_mansion, 24, 52, - Reduce min players to 12
frostbite, 0, 40,
fa_italy_b3_fixed, 12, 64,
braundorf_final, 0, 40,
venice_ne4, 8, 64,
pirates, 0, 40,
fa_oasis_b2, 16, 64,
et_beach, 0, 40,
praetoria_m2, 24, 64, -> Either remove or lower to 16, 64. I've yet to see this map appear in rotations as ET Beach never ends with more than 20 people. Reduce min players to 12
sp_delivery_te, 0, 50,
railgun, 24, 64, -> Tugs are too buggy to enjoy this map in my opinion. Buggy tuggys. 
et_ice, 12, 50, -> Sitting at -44. Agree - remove
goldrush-gals, 6, 64,
fa_bremen_final, 0, 64,
fa_temple, 24, 64,
desertrats, 20, 64,
library_b3, 12, 64,
ga_el_kef, 0, 12, -> Sitting at -12. Keep
raid_final, 0, 12, -> Been on the server for too long and I see people leave or sit in spec for this map. Keep
school, 16, 50, -> Lower to 12, 50. I rarely see it appear in rotation. Yes, reduce min
v1rocket_b2, 24, 64, -> Never seen this appear so needs lowering. Maybe 12, 64? Yes, reduce min
goldrush, 20, 64, -> Replace with GALS and move it so it's in rotation twice and as far from the other GALS as possible. Goldrush brings in players from what I've seen and the base version is impossible for allies.

 

I don't have the most recent scores of all maps, I think it's something DD needs to fix. The only two I've seen in the negative while on the server today were Ice and El Kef so let me know which others are negative please. 

 

Maps to add: don't care for Fata Morgana - others ok

 

 

 

 

My comments in green

[captnconcrete]

canyon3 5 too 16 .

 

beetown 0 too 20

 

ctf firelite 6 too 16

 

fata  morgana  0 too 20 i like this map but a lot didnt.

 

i agree with gameplan on rest of rotation ..

 

i love the idea of 2 diff rotations. this is how we did it at bunker . one for full server or populartime and one for   slow no pop time. i could load out which ever one we needed . it was a big hit back in the b1 days. id like atlest high admins be able to swapout verses day to day that can get to be a pain. but i would be willing to try which ever way dare sees fit. thank u el! hopefully  we can get something done here thanks hip and game for ur feedback also .

 

[ElEl]

3 hours ago, Gameplan said:

ga_el_kef, 0, 12, -> Sitting at -12. Keep
raid_final, 0, 12, -> Been on the server for too long and I see people leave or sit in spec for this map. Keep

What are the reasons for keeping these 2 maps? People leave every time they come on. El kef is at -12. 

 

Library also needs removing - it's at -13.

 

 

23 hours ago, -=HipKat=- said:

I just want to point something out here, these maps, I never see or almost never see. 

 

bba0-beta2, 30, 64,
haunted_mansion, 24, 52,
praetoria_m2, 24, 64, 
railgun, 24, 64,
fa_temple, 24, 64,
desertrats, 20, 64,
school, 16, 50, 
v1rocket_b2, 24, 64, 
goldrush, 20, 64, -> 

I do like having maps that only appear rarely but I think we've got too many at the moment so that's why the minimum needed is going to be reduced for most of them.

 

 

 

Daredevil hasn't replied to my Discord PMs so I think he's busy with real life stuff, I might just go ahead and make the new rotation as it's been a few weeks since we've had one and there's too many negative maps.

 

I've been thinking about setting up a poll with a list of maps and people just choose what they want and anything with more than X number of votes is what the rotation would be. Not sure if it's worth the time to set it up. What do you guys think to the idea?

[-=HipKat=-]

3 minutes ago, ElEl said:

What are the reasons for keeping these 2 maps? People leave every time they come on. El kef is at -12. 

 

Library also needs removing - it's at -13.

 

 

I do like having maps that only appear rarely but I think we've got too many at the moment so that's why the minimum needed is going to be reduced for most of them.

 

 

 

Daredevil hasn't replied to my Discord PMs so I think he's busy with real life stuff, I might just go ahead and make the new rotation as it's been a few weeks since we've had one and there's too many negative maps.

 

I've been thinking about setting up a poll with a list of maps and people just choose what they want and anything with more than X number of votes is what the rotation would be. Not sure if it's worth the time to set it up. What do you guys think to the idea?

Yep, I think that's a great idea.

[-=HipKat=-]

Just a thought but last time we had Marrakech nights on there it was the weird version where the documents were in the center building and I don't think it was a very popular version although personally I like that one the best. But what are the chances of getting the original put on there because I don't think I've seen that one or at least not for a long time.

 

My reason for wanting to lose Bremen and Venice is that both maps, Allies win almost every time and they do it quickly. I love both of those maps but if we can't lengthen the spawn time for allies to make it more fair then let's just dump them for a while.

[Letdown]

Agreed that some maps need to go, pretty much the ones you mentioned.

For starters, let's get a new lineup : be patient, it will be available at the end of the week.
Some interesting suggestions : let's see what can be done next.
Thanks for the input.

[captnconcrete]

On 4/29/2021 at 3:57 PM, ElEl said:

What are the reasons for keeping these 2 maps? People leave every time they come on. El kef is at -12. 

 

Library also needs removing - it's at -13.

 

 

I do like having maps that only appear rarely but I think we've got too many at the moment so that's why the minimum needed is going to be reduced for most of them.

 

 

 

Daredevil hasn't replied to my Discord PMs so I think he's busy with real life stuff, I might just go ahead and make the new rotation as it's been a few weeks since we've had one and there's too many negative maps.

 

I've been thinking about setting up a poll with a list of maps and people just choose what they want and anything with more than X number of votes is what the rotation would be. Not sure if it's worth the time to set it up. What do you guys think to the idea?

u still have server access????? we should just reinstate that level 17 u had... DD responded to me a few weeks back. so he is around. letdown and eazy i know have access. i like the vote idea.. any forward movement is better than a stall. or maybe i should just do what u suggested to me on jay2.oh man the head ache. my self i am getting tired of same ole maps all the time. id like too see maps we havent played to death already.

[-=HipKat=-]

Just looked at the times per maps played by me on Jay 2 on TB which could be a good example that probably applies to every regular on there and is a good list of the maps that have been on Jay 2 over the last year

 

1	=F|A=Bremen Final					85	12h
2	Adlernest Final					79	2d
3	Goldrush GALS Final					79	3d
4	Caen 2 Final					78	2d
5	Beach Invasion 1.1					73	2d
6	Pirates Final					70	6d
7	Venice NE4 Final					68	3d
8	Special Delivery TE Final					63	2d
9	Frostbite Final					61	14h
10	Supply Depot 2 Final					58	4d
11	Braundorf Final					54	13d
12	Teuthonia Final					51	5d
13	River Port Beta 1					42	307d
14	Warbell Final					39	1d
15	Fuel Depot Final					39	8d
16	Kerkyra Beta 1					37	194d
17	Marrakech Streets 2 by Night Final					34	30d
18	=F|A= Italy Beta 3					34	320d
19	Siwa Oasis SW Beta 3					31	422d
20	=F|A= Temple Final					30	1d
21	fa_italy_b3_fixed					29	14h
22	School Beta 1					29	21d
23	Capuzzo Airport Final					29	26d
24	Fueldump Official					26	56d
25	Castle CTF Beta 2					24	44d
26	UJE 00 Final					24	684d
27	Operation Marrakech Final					23	258d
28	Oil Kombinat Final					22	26d
29	Supply Depot Night Final					20	243d
30	Baserace Final					19	43d
31	Snatch! 3 Final					19	188d
32	MLB Hotchkiss Final					19	555d
33	Tramfight Beta 2					18	419d
34	GA El Kef Final					17	12h
35	Library Beta 3					17	5d
36	Raid Final					16	11h
37	Haunted Mansion Final					16	216d
38	Railgun Official					13	257d
39	Minas Tirith FP 3					13	537d
40	=F|A= Goldrush Beta 2					11	571d
41	Subway Final					10	301d
42	MLB Temple Final					10	671d
43	ET Ice Final					9	20d
44	Castle Attack Beta 5					9	428d
45	Decay Beta 5					8	197d
46	Battery Official					8	216d
47	Radar Official					8	314d
48	MLB Daybreak Final					8	497d
49	Supply Final					8	737d
50	=F|A= Oasis Beta 2					7	6d
51	Eagles 2 Ways Beta 3					7	44d
52	Praetoria: Mission Two Final					7	194d
53	Dubrovnik Final					6	30d
54	Desert Rats 1.0					6	64d
55	Hydro Dam Final					6	303d
56	Tankbuster 2.0.0					6	308d
57	Goldrush Official					6	313d
58	Saberpeak Final					5	30d
59	Baserace Desert Final					5	61d
60	2tanks Final					5	188d
61	Flame Guards War Zone Final					5	194d
62	Beer Run Beta 7a					5	194d
63	Goldrush SW TE Final					5	516d
64	Purefrag Final					4	222d
65	Bremen Final					4	522d
66	Operation Resurrection Final					3	197d
67	Streets of Italy FP 2					3	425d
68	UJE_00_xmas					3	509d
69	Erdenberg Test 1					3	728d
70	Decay Beta 7					2	1d
71	Cathedral SW Beta 7					2	30d
72	V1 Rocket Beta 2					2	61d
73	Industry 2 Final					2	243d
74	North Pole Final					2	512d
75	UJE Xmas Factory Final					2	513d
76	Cortex Beta 5.1					2	518d
77	Axis Lab Final					2	523d
78	V2 Base TE Final					2	529d
79	TC Base Final					2	677d
80	=F|A= Oasis Beta 3					1	29d
81	MML Church Final					1	33d
82	Ponza Isle Final					1	68d
83	Karsiah TE v2 Final					1	209d
84	UJE Fueldump CP					1	250d
85	Secret Weapon Final					1	251d
86	Oasis EU Beta 2					1	261d
87	Streets of Italy FP 3.2					1	301d
88	1944 Overlord Final					1	428d
89	Launch Facility Final					1	491d
90	Transmitter Final					1	511d
91	La Rochelle Beta 2					1	523d
92	Marrakech Streets 2 Final					1	551d
93	Lighthouse 2 Final					1	564d
94	6flags Final					1	571d
95	Nodown Final					1	712d
96	just_jump_3_b2_2					1	712d
97	Reactor Final					1	749d
98	Coast Beta 1					1	768d
99	UJE Italy Final					1	802d

[PHNTM]

Can we get rid of fata morgana and the gauntlet?

They keep killing the server and are not very interesting.

 

Could we please get V2 Base TE Final?

 

[Letdown]

5 hours ago, PHNTM said:

Can we get rid of fata morgana and the gauntlet?

They keep killing the server and are not very interesting.

 

Could we please get V2 Base TE Final?

 

 

Fata : Some players like it and some don't

Gauntlet  : haven't played it yet. Edit : I have now and removed it because of a bot issue

Make sure people vote. I'd like some feedback from other players.

Then I will remove maps with negative votes as soon as I get the chance.

V2 Base could be a nice addition.

 

FYI the actual lineup is this : (had to remove beetown because of an invalid command map layer)

 

supplydepot2, 0, 64,
teuthonia_final, 12, 64,
adlernest, 0, 40,
CTF_firelite_b1, 0, 40,
caen2, 0, 52,
haunted_mansion, 12, 52,
frostbite, 0, 40,
fa_italy_b3_fixed, 12, 64,
braundorf_final, 0, 40,
venice_ne4, 8, 64,
pirates, 0, 40,
Fata_Morgana, 0, 40,
fa_oasis_b2, 20, 64,
et_beach, 0, 40,
praetoria_m2, 12, 64,
sp_delivery_te, 0, 50,
goldrush-gals, 6, 64,
fa_bremen_final, 0, 64,
falcon2, 0, 40,
fa_temple, 20, 64,
library_b3, 12, 64,
desertrats, 20, 64,
raid_final, 0, 12,
school, 12, 50,
v1rocket_b2, 12, 64,
canyon3, 16, 50,

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by Letdown
update info

[Gameplan]

On 4/29/2021 at 3:57 PM, ElEl said:

What are the reasons for keeping these 2 maps? P

 

Same reason I choose Coors Light over Bud Light...I like it.

[captnconcrete]

yukky blaaah,,,, coors light budlight dump striaght in toliet . hahahaha.

 

gauntlet has bot issue make it only playable when no bots on.lol