Gaming Utility developed by me for ET and Other FPS Games

[Rajput]

Hi,

 

I developed the following Gaming Utility called here as "MyGamingUtility" whose details are given below. Before I release this program to other gamers, I wanted to know what my clan players felt about this.

1. Do you consider the use of this utility to be fair.

2. Also will you pay for this program at a price of $5 to $10 per license?

 

About MyGamingUtility

Rapid fire is a gaming utility for first person shooter computer games. This utility does the following:

• It helps the player fire semi automatic weapons rapidly without multiple key presses using either mouse or keyboard.
  
• It can also automatically break continuous long bursts fired by players into configurable shorter bursts that are more accurate and efficient.
  

 

MyGamingUtility helps FPS players as follows:

• It eases your key presses when firing semi-automatic weapons rapidly. Using MyGamingUtility is more ergonomic than rapid clicking for high fire rate and puts less strain on your hand and neck.
  
• It also helps you to concentrate more on aiming than on pressing keys rapidly.
  
• MyGamingUtility easily achieves a very rapid fire rate with semi-automatic weapons. Normally this fire rate is the maximum limit set by most gaming Engines and is close to 4-8 clicks/second.
  
• MyGamingUtility is completely configurable and you can map your own keys and select your own fire rate and burst lengths using different time gaps.
  
• Players can break a continuous long burst into shorter bursts that are more accurate and efficient.
  

 

Is MyGamingUtility a hack

MyGamingUtility was developed by Sudhir Singh with the intention to help gamers play ergonomically and to help new players come in stead with those who use different exploits and scripts. As MyGamingUtility works independent of gaming engines, its effects are within the limits set by the game, so it is not a hack. Using scripts for firing rapidly is a common exploit used by most players. However most scripts don't work with all games and many others don't work with mouse buttons, MyGamingUtility does so.

 

Limitations of Using MyGamingUtility with different games

While MyGamingUtility was developed for RTCW: Enemy Territory, it can be used in many shooting games where rapid semi-automatic firing and short bursts are important. MyGamingUtility simulates keystrokes by adding respective characters to hardware input streams and so it is independent of gaming engines and should work with most games. Still some games lock the fire rate of semi automatic weapons to a single value and so rapid mouse clicking does not help fire more rapidly in these games. So MyGamingUtility will not be able to deliver a higher rate with semi-autos in these games. For example while in RTCW:ET, MyGamingUtility generates a higher fire rate with all semi-autos like Colt, Luger, Garand and K43; in Halo, Rapid fire generates a high fire rate with Plasma Pistol, but maintains standard fire rate with Normal Pistol. So the users should test the trial version of MyGamingUtility with games that they wish to use it with before buying MyGamingUtility. The users should also try changing time intervals as different settings may work better with different games.

 

About Myself

I, Sudhir Kumar Singh, the author of MyGamingUtility, am a professional computer programmer working for a reputed MNC where I mainly develop industrial and engineering software. I am a regular player of RTCW: Enemy Territory. I developed MyGamingUtility as a Private In-House Project to help gamers play ergonomically and to help new players come in stead with those who use different exploits and scripts.

 

Regards,

Sudhir Kumar Singh (=F|A=Rajput)

[daredevil]

I removed another topic since it was exactly same. Please keep discussion to one since it's easy to follow up for everyone.

 

As far as me goes, I used to own with my simple mouse. For 5 years, I never needed something like this so why would I need now? Even if it's free, I wouldn't use it.

 

This is just my opinion but it would be different for others especially disable people, kids, adults, etc.

[Chuckun]

Personally, it's too much like cheating for me. I draw the line at anything more than simple config scripts like sprinting / lowering sens while firing etc..

 

Also, the use of the term 'ergonomic' puts me off anything. Overused bullshit word that applies to anything. My car is ergonomic, my laptop is ergonomic, my vacuum cleaner is ergonomic, hell - even my parker pen is ergonomic. Such a shoddy word to fool people into thinking it's something magical / futuristic lol.

[Notajedi]

Wouldn't use it myself, my limited skills are mine not software enhanced.

Also would vac/pb class this as a game hack?

[JoeDirt]

This would be considered a game hack. And since we do not allow any scripst/hacks on our server anyone caught using it would be banned.

[detoren]

I dont think its fair to convict this as a cheat or whatever without trying how it works . I woold like to try and judge later but only if it does stay within the pb limits of cg.

I reed joe post a bit late coold you explane script to me cos i hear that often but dont realy understand what ppl mean with it ?

Is that what chucun explaned as he is firing that his sense go down , or something diffrent .

Edited November 16, 2011 by detoren

[Chuckun]

Pretty sure all it does is change how your mouse clicks are received and thus it would appear as though the player was just pressing quickly / in bursts etc and isn't actually game-side scripting.. But still, it sounds lame I'm sorry

[hobbit]

I remember trying it out when he posted this on our old clans forum but i never really felt that i needed it.

[PiaNist]

I developed the following Gaming Utility called here as "MyGamingUtility" whose details are given below. Before I release this program to other gamers, I wanted to know what my clan players felt about this.

1. Do you consider the use of this utility to be fair. imho, no. i still consider this program a cheat no matter how 'ergonomically' it is.

2. Also will you pay for this program at a price of $5 to $10 per license? ^^

[SunLight]

Nowadays you have even programmable mice with macros and autofire, but I think a bad player would still suck even with those, unless they make a mouse with aimbot. And personally I consider using any external software as hacking.

 

[...]and to help new players come in stead with those who use different exploits and scripts[...]

Lol, it looks like a quote from a cheaters website...

And it is based on the common misconception that each and every good player is a cheater. I don't think that a new player should install software to play better than others, it's like saying 'let's all hack because everyone is a hacker'.

 

Honestly when I started to play online games I didn't even think about the existence of hackers, when I saw a good player I just thought he was better and I had to improve, nowadays all you see are lazy kids who ragequit saying 'this server sucks, hacks are allowed', 'all players here use hacks' etc. (happened yesterday last time) Before learning how to play, they learn the fact that 'everyone is a hacker' and they think any player who doesn't suck totally is one of them. And probably most hackers are ex-whiners who didn't bother learning how to play or accepting the fact that not everyone can be on top.

 

Nothing personal here, but I don't agree with players needing 'help' to play a game. (Well, autofire won't turn any noob into a pro either)

 

For example while in RTCW:ET, MyGamingUtility generates a higher fire rate with all semi-autos like Colt, Luger, Garand and K43

Personally I wouldn't use it even if it was allowed, since when I shoot with those weapons I also want to have some control on the timing

[Rajput]

Personally, it's too much like cheating for me. I draw the line at anything more than simple config scripts like sprinting / lowering sens while firing etc..

 

Also, the use of the term 'ergonomic' puts me off anything. Overused bullshit word that applies to anything. My car is ergonomic, my laptop is ergonomic, my vacuum cleaner is ergonomic, hell - even my parker pen is ergonomic. Such a shoddy word to fool people into thinking it's something magical / futuristic lol.

 

I posted a ticket on same at Even Balance to know what they think. The ticket can be tracked at http://www.evenbalance.com/troubleticket/update_ticket.php?ticketnumber=EB4636000579823&password=db337c5ed4671bccab1d25086dca95&special_message=new_ticket

[SunLight]

We'll see what they answer, but read for example this quote from clanbase rules:

All programs or files, either changed game files or new files, that change the game or add to its functionality, or which interact with the game in any way, are strictly forbidden unless other rules specify otherwise. Modified versions of the game's resource files are always forbidden, regardless of what they do.

so for example a dynamite counter is regarded as hack because it writes in the game console, your software simulates mouse button events (I guess), so it 'interacts' with the game via the operating system, even without writing or reading the game memory. Well, one could even say that mouse drivers interact with the game as well, but it's different.

 

Anyway, I don't say your software is so 'hack-ish', as I have written it won't alter a player skill, but the thing I didn't like was the reason behind this, that is 'to help new players come in stead with those who use different exploits and scripts' the point is banning players who use exploits, not using scripts to improve gaming performance because others supposedly use 'scripts'.

[Rajput]

Hi All,

 

Thanks to all of you to take time to provide the feedback. Here are my consolidated replies to some of them:

 

I posted a ticket with EvenBalance (Punk Buster Owners) to know if they would consider this a hack. The ticket is still open and can be tracked at http://www.evenbalance.com/troubleticket/update_ticket.php?ticketnumber=EB4636000579823&password=db337c5ed4671bccab1d25086dca95&special_message=new_ticket

 

Now the Bigger Question.... Can Punkbuster ban this? They cannot with their current framework because this program runs independent of game and does not affect the integrity of the Gaming Engine. Also its impossible to detect this program in ET because of its limited effect in the game which is always withing PB Limits. You cannot spec and say if the person is clicking fast or if he is using a program.

 

Most experienced players use scripting and new players don't have that edge. So this is meant of fill that gap. This program wont make you a pro, you have to learn the game for that.

[SunLight]

Thanks to all of you to take time to provide the feedback.

you're welcome

 

Now the Bigger Question.... Can Punkbuster ban this?

hmm, you wrote a script and you are worried if it's detectable? tut tut... anyway, pb doesn't detect sh**, maybe tzac, so probably it won't.

 

Most experienced players use scripting and new players don't have that edge. So this is meant of fill that gap.

You are still convinced of that?

 

 

If you ask for feedback, I can tell my opinion on a couple of things:

As MyGamingUtility works independent of gaming engines, its effects are within the limits set by the game, so it is not a hack.

so according to your theory, if I ask a good trickjumper to record a hard jump with a mouse recorder, then I replay his movement, it is not a hack, because I will move within the possible movements and limit of the game, and simulating a mouse move doesn't interact with the engine?

And, if you say already that it's not a hack, why do you ask? imho a hack is everything that is not allowed in leagues, servers, etc. that is anything which interacts with the game in any way, to give you an advantage of any kind, or exploiting something that is built-in in the game (no-recoil scripts, etc.) to give an advantage which is regarded as unfair.

 

Using scripts for firing rapidly is a common exploit used by most players.

...not. At least I can talk about ET which is the game I play.

 

However most scripts don't work with all games and many others don't work with mouse buttons, MyGamingUtility does so.

so you want to improve that exploiting a bit, and push it even further...

 

in Halo, Rapid fire generates a high fire rate with Plasma Pistol, but maintains standard fire rate with Normal Pistol.

I don't play Halo, but, does that mean that for that game it doesnt stay 'within the limits set by the game'?

 

I don't want to sound impolite or anything, or troll, you asked for opinions and I'm giving you some.

[matthewX]

Think its pointless either way, as far as the gap between players... there is no script/ external program outside of what people would say is a hack that will fill the gap between player skill levels. So falsely saying it would actually really up someones gameplay is ludicrous at best. Tried a few rapid fire scripts back in the day myself when they were all the rave, were more of a hindrance to me than help by far. Much easier and efficient to aim without them and gives you far better control. Regardless in my time in ET the only thing I ever really felt gave experienced players an edge was their own custom cfgs compared to those who dont use any, and that was only due to better fps and sight capabilities.