Buckwild Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Some players like to walljump the last gate on minastirith and go for the objective.On F|A RECRUITING XP SAVE ET server, They are being stopped by admins.The reason is that spawns will be "messed up". Walljumping earlier gates will makeAxis spawn further back. But jumping the last gate and winning map would only 'prevent'further forward spawns. The rules say walljumping allowed after 5 Minutes.What about on fueldump when Allies break through, Walljump dump and plant dynamite to win?(After 5 Minutes = no rush) I really think there's no rule against it.Here's 2 places that mapmaker made possible a double-jump to the objective: 2 Quote
Flible Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 I believe the rule to be, walljumping and trickjumping is allowed as long as there is no objective advancement involved (i.e. dynamite, or opening cave door @ oasis_TE). Quote
OnionKnight Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 I feel like Minas is the exception to walljump for the reason you stated. It really messes up the game with having axis spawn go too far back (I have never seen it myself but I been told it does this). Every other map walljump is okay as long as there is no rushing involved. As for Fuel dump, it has so many holes you can drive a semi through it. Double jump is allowed so if the guy bunny hops up the hill over the wooden barricade, use the shed to jump over the barricade, over the rooftops past the barricade ...etc it is all good. Quote
Buckwild Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 Leader told Me that walljumping sw_oasis_b2 wall before 5 Minutes to open tunneldoor is ok. What I'm asking about is minastirith: Is walljumping "last gate" to objective allowed? Quote
Syroox Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Leader told Me that walljumping sw_oasis_b2 wall before 5 Minutes to open tunneldoor is ok. What I'm asking about is minastirith: Is walljumping "last gate" to objective allowed? I think you're allowed to jump and do obj after 5mins (usually always reached if you're up there) Quote
-=HipKat=- Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 What ever happened to back in the day when no one allowed wall jumping or spawn killing? Quote
von Rantala Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Idk why you started topic in main section, because if it would been disallowed you would have showed way to cheat in map, but this time, wj is allowed, to doing obj after 5 gone rule is in use this time. Overall, if walljumping messing spawns its glitching, because map designer was not planned that wj is available. So if walljumping mess spawn points not allowed. If it not mess spawn points, botts or its not glitcing, or it not give huge upperhand to other team its allowed after 5 min has passed. 1 Quote
B3rk0 Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Idk why you started topic in main section, because if it would been disallowed you would have showed way to cheat in map, but this time, wj is allowed, to doing obj after 5 gone rule is in use this time. Overall, if walljumping messing spawns its glitching, because map designer was not planned that wj is available. So if walljumping mess spawn points not allowed. If it not mess spawn points, botts or its not glitcing, or it not give huge upperhand to other team its allowed after 5 min has passed. I take 5 minutes to reach the first gate in Minas Quote
Buckwild Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 Well, I made this post because Admins are not allowing walljump to objective on minastirith.Players are being !splat or !putteam spec.We shouldn't allow cheating, Like minejumping to the top or friendly artillery blast lifting up there(Accidental or not).Or satcheling past lower gates or friendly grenade boosting teammates.Walljumping through Allies door by 2nd gate and getting next flag without dynamite gate behindmesses up spawns and is not allowed. Any walljumping lower gates and getting flag makes Axis spawn back a ways.Walljumping through Allies door by 2nd gate and dynamite from the other side is not allowed?I think It should be allowed after 5 Minutes into the map. It doesn't mess up spawning and catches Allies off guard. Yet, admin has said: "It's not allowed". Quote
D..X Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 rules are quite clear if people would take time to read them like von said its aloud after 5 mins if people are still disallowing it please let us know and we will speak to them F|A RECRUITING XPS We have 5 mins no rush rule on this server. Don't finish the final objective in first 5 mins. Once 5 mins are passed from the time of map start you can finish the objective. TJ is allowed to complete the objective after 5 minute Quote
Leader RedBaird Posted March 31, 2016 Leader Posted March 31, 2016 I may have been one of those admins saying "no" and !splatting. I am so used to having problems on the other gates that I never considered the point that Buckwild has brought up. 1 Quote
Hecken Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 I mostly splat engineers and covies so it's safe no one will mess with spawns, about doing TJ (5th floor to Palantir) to finish the map after 5 minutes I don't have any problem with it. 1 Quote
-=HipKat=- Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 I think on Minas, the only way to advance is to blow the gate, since bypassing it obviously messes up Axis spawn Quote
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