Who believes in man-made global warming??

[Ghostwind]

But your brains are so much more malable to the government if they can scare you and make you rely on them to help you. Like coopins for new electric cars!!! That charge out of your garage wall...from electricity made by coal powered electric plants that spew more smoke and crap out than your normal old automobile. I can't say the last time I've seen billows of car exhaust fumes from a distance.

 

I dont think that governments are out to brainwash us in to buying electric cars... Yes coal and other power plants do produce pollution, but they actually do so a a much lower rate than automobiles do. What you see coming from the plants is mostly steam coming from the generators, not 100% pollution. Electric cars are a great solution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions, but will certainly never eliminate them. The other thing is that they really are only useful if the battery life can be extended. Right now, a good electric car will only get about 150 km of driving before a 3-8 hour charge is needed again, which only makes it useful for in town driving (on a side note, driving the Mercedes A-Klasse was very much the same as driving a car with a gasoline engine. Just imagine driving your car now, but it makes no noise when turned on!)

[=Death Hunter=]

We do know our protective magnetic field that deflects all the bad radiation from the sun is weakening. Eventually allowing alot of bad things in if it doesnt slow down. This is what gets the polar shift conspiricists all worked up. Thats a little scary. But they dont know why its happening.

[Rabidraccoon]

The green house gases probably have more effect on the health of living things than on the global climate changes. Electric vehicles will slowly make the air more breathable. (Unless the pollution created making and disposing the batteries creates another mess. The Sun goes through cycles and the Earth's orbit wobbles from time to time. Consistent climate data has only been around for about 100 years. Kind of hard to say we are an influence. We had little ice ages during the Medieval time period. Sometime around 1650, 1770 and 1850. So maybe we are on a cycle for another one. Another theory has come up that our green house gases are actually preventing the next "ice age" from coming.

http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/4446/greenhouse-gases-delay-the-next-ice-age

[Ghostwind]

Kind of hard to say we are an influence. We had little ice ages during the Medieval time period. Sometime around 1650, 1770 and 1850. So maybe we are on a cycle for another one. Another theory has come up that our green house gases are actually preventing the next "ice age" from coming.

http://www.astrobio....he-next-ice-age

 

I think global warming is a little bit misleading anyways... What we are causing is climate change... ie, some places it gets hotter than it used to be, some, colder

[Rabidraccoon]

Yes, I agree. It would be better to say, climate instability.

[Ghostwind]

Yes, I agree. It would be better to say, climate instability.

 

(+/- 3σ) of the norm weather pattern. That ougta cover our bases

[Dak]

Some thought provoking reading for those that have the time and are interested.

 

Letter1.pdf

Letter2.pdf

[Omega-X]

Yes i beleive it, just look at giant cities with millions of smoke stacks, cant be good for the enviorment at all

[Salieri]

I hope to find my old environmental science slides from my BIO143 class. But solar cycles cannot account for the rapid increase in temperature. The suns cycle is about 11 years, which doesnt time to account for the increase in global temperature thats happened in the last 70 years. If it was the sun we would see swings every 11 years. If you want true solid evidence about man made global warming i would suggest the vostok ice cores which show the cycles of the earth over time, but also show how in the latest century and a half it has increased rapidly. Also man caused global warming not just from burning fossil fuels, but from other indirect stuff like the rapid increase in livestock and meat to support the earth. So to actually make a dent against the rising CO2, we would have to drastically change how we eat. But no one wants to talk about it and stand up to the beef industry. (But I'm still a big fan of a good steak)

 

Anyway thank you to those that gave their opinion. Whether yours was different then mine or not.

[Rabidraccoon]

I guess we can always go to test tube meat. This article says 51% of man made green house gases are created by "farting animals". LOL

 

http://hplusmagazine.com/2009/11/17/eight-ways-vitro-meat-will-change-our-lives/

[Medic Kane]

I personally think most of it is solar

[Duke Nukem]

HAARP uses high frequency radio waves to heat the ionosphere. This is no secret.

[beedub]

All I know is the younger generations have been spoon-fed the global warming theory their whole lives. For those of us that were around when it supposedly started, here is what happened. In the late 80s we had 2 or 3 years in a row where summer type weather continued into November. We were told that this was due to global warming, and the whole thing was born. We were told it would continue to get worse. If this was all true, we would be havingyear-round summer weather, with unbearable heat during usual summer months. Basically the Earth would be inhabitable by now. To contrast this, our summer weather for 2010 started Aug. 1st and ended Sept. 2nd or so. The winter of 2009 - 2010 was the coldest on record in 20 years. I am being told on TV that the polar ice caps are melting at an alarming rate,but why haven't our beaches disappeared? I love the commercial that shows a lonely polar bear floating on a small chunk of ice, like that is all that is left. Nevermind that they swim out to these floating chunks to club baby seals as they swim by and eat them for dinner.

 

I think people need to step back and evaluate these kinds of things for themselves and not just take everyone's word for it. For all we know the Earth has a 2000 year weather pattern or something.

 

Sorry for the long post, but I thought you needed some info from someone that had been around for the whole thing.

 

 

Sorry for those that saw the post twice. I was on my mobile and posted a partial before I finished, I guess.

[ajnl]

All I know is the younger generations have been spoon fed the global warming theory their whole lives. For those of us that were around when it supposedly started, here is what happened. We had 2 or 3 years in a row where summer type weather continued into November. We were told that this was due to global warming and the whole thing was born. We were told it would continue to get worse. If this was all true, we would ne having continuous summer weather with unbearable heat during usual summer months. Basically the Earth would be inhabitable ny now. To contrast this, our summer weather for 2010 started Aug. 1st and ended Sept. 2nd or so. The winter of 2009 - 2010 was the coldest on record in 20 years. I am being told on TV that the polar ice caps ate melting at an alarming Tate, then why haven't our beaches disappeared? I love the commercial that shows a lonely polar bear floating on a small chunk of ice, like that OS all that is left

 

Yeah exactly and 50 years ago they were talking about an ice age. And now when it gets hotter than normal it is contributed straight to global warming. Even if it gets colder than normal, they some how contribute it to global warming.

[Achiyan]

Have you ever tried to see the stars in a big city and looked for the stars in the country? Smog makes a BIG difference in visibility. Think about it if you REALLY know what Im talkin about.

Edited May 31, 2012 by Achiyan