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Hey, the high ping cryer is back (me ofc :P) , yea but this time it's something legit.

 

As title says Insurgency servers, there are 3--> Coop, Hardcore, PVP

 

Coop I get 201-210 ping, but at the same time i change my server go to pvp to camp and i have 300-340ping there. Now I'm sure that all 3 servers are on same machine (same location), but i have different pings, I'm a noob in networking side of things so help would be appreciated. Did ask some guys on steam never got an answer. Guess i can get it here.

 

My location: South-West India

Server loc: North-East US (if i'm not wrong)

Speed( mine does matter coz its low): 1Mbitsps (not constant is like 910-960kbits per sec)

PPPoE/DSL (not sure what do i call my type of internet it uses normal telephone wire which is old school in 2017 ikr)

PC settings: none that can coz any type of problem.

 

Note: My modem does kind of just stop (like freeze no internet traffic for a min) then by getting some load on to it brings it back most of the times, i guess this is modem side problem (it's a modem+ wireless router in one plastic box thingy).

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Run winMTR for 100 packets and then for 500 packets and post results here. 

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So I remember you're on ADSL2+ with interleaved network mode. It doesn't look like your modem is timing out and dropping packets, which is good.
No packet loss carrying down to the server, so that's good. Ping looks mostly stable around 260ms. Sometimes a 20ms spike, not great- but not bad.

I've done some research, and it looks like PvP generally has higher latency than Co-op. I'm sure there's some interpolation going on for "antilag" which is part of the reason why the ping is higher.

In the past, your connection has looked to be decent... so I suppose what you could do is ask BSNL if they could change your "line mode" from "Interleaved" to "Fastpath".
What this does is disable error correction, and will lower your ping.

Here's the catch if you start having line problems for some reason, you will start dropping packets quicker and it could knock your DSL connection offline where an Interleaved connection is more robust. I think you'll be fine however.
One note- a lot of ISPs will not change your line mode or will ask for a fee- it's their decision to be honest.
 

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What's the difference between the modes?

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so i tried trace route with cmd this thing has some different result. and if my ISP doesn't allow fastpath do i request them to turn off my interleave mode?

 

 

C:\Users\my name>tracert 108.61.21.93

 

Tracing route to 108-61-21-93.constant.com [108.61.21.93]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

 

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  (router ip)

  2     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  (my dynamic ip)

  3     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  218.248.162.186

  4    17 ms    17 ms     *     218.248.235.198

  5    33 ms    33 ms    32 ms  115.113.165.93.static-mumbai.vsnl.net.in [115.113.165.93]

  6    34 ms    33 ms    34 ms  172.17.169.202

  7   247 ms   247 ms   247 ms  ix-ae-4-2.tcore1.CXR-Chennai.as6453.net [180.87.36.9]

  8   242 ms   242 ms   242 ms  if-ae-13-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.36.83]

  9   245 ms   246 ms   251 ms  if-ae-11-2.thar1.SVQ-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.98.37]

 10   247 ms   247 ms   247 ms  ae-6.r00.sngpsi05.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.241]

 11   241 ms   240 ms   239 ms  ae-10.r20.sngpsi05.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.18]

 12   250 ms   250 ms   251 ms  ae-8.r22.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.48]

 13   250 ms   251 ms   251 ms  ae-0.r23.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.183]

 14   267 ms   283 ms   268 ms  ae-3.r21.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.125]

 15   264 ms   263 ms   263 ms  ae-0.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.53]

 16   332 ms   333 ms   333 ms  ae-0.r24.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.14]

 17   332 ms   331 ms   331 ms  ae-1.r07.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.181]

 18   337 ms   358 ms   333 ms  ae-0.a02.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.51]

 19   342 ms   335 ms   332 ms  ae-1.choopa.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [128.241.2.250]

 20   338 ms   332 ms   332 ms  vl50-br1.pnj1.choopa.net [66.55.144.146]

 21   331 ms   332 ms   398 ms  ethernet1-2-1-c1-16-b2-1.pnj1.choopa.net [108.61.79.34]

 22   332 ms   332 ms   332 ms  108-61-21-93.constant.com [108.61.21.93]

 

Trace complete.

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so i tried trace route with cmd this thing has some different result. and if my ISP doesn't allow fastpath do i request them to turn off my interleave mode?

Hmm... just as I thought. Your latency/ping changes at different times of the day. What this means is that BSNL and FA is not the problem. The problem is with what we call "routing".

(I dealt with this last year when my ISP moved from Level3 to Tata for routing. They did such a shit job, their contract ended early and now NTT does my ISP's routing.)

 

Basically, a routing provider serves as the primary fiber-optic or copper wire "pipeline" for your packets to go from city to city. Normally, this is without problems- but sometimes a company will "oversell" their capacity.

 

A good way to put this is like a gaming server. Let's say we have 32 slots available, but we are greedy so we sell 48. When there are 32 players on, everything is fine. But when 48 players are on, the server starts to lag and everybody's ping starts to get high. This is basically what is happening to you.

 

 

For this problem, I would call BSNL, and say that your internet is "slow to respond" during certain times of the day. You can tell a little lie, and say you see "waiting for response" in your internet browser.

They will not be able to help you with this... but they can file a complaint with the company that does routing for you- (Airtel I believe)

 

As for DSL line mode... no sorry :(. There's only two. Either Interleaved or Fastpath. Turning off the interleave mode is fastpath.

There is some good news... if you do get fastpath, your routing may change. In any event, expect your ping to lower by about 20ms.

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Well, slow to respond=true, waiting for response=true, connection timed out=true, ping spikes =true, that is what i am going to tell the isp now, i will make sure that this complaint reaches the hq and not the regional office since they are corrupted here too, the site engi said that we don't get supply of wires from the company to install/change existing lines. which means even new connections use shit old wires which were manufactured years ago and not used. instead of doing all this i think i should probably just wait for my new isp to install his internet here. thanks for the help!!

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Well, slow to respond=true, waiting for response=true, connection timed out=true, ping spikes =true, that is what i am going to tell the isp now, i will make sure that this complaint reaches the hq and not the regional office since they are corrupted here too, the site engi said that we don't get supply of wires from the company to install/change existing lines. which means even new connections use shit old wires which were manufactured years ago and not used. instead of doing all this i think i should probably just wait for my new isp to install his internet here. thanks for the help!!

Be very, very careful for what for you request in terms of wiring. If you talk them into installing new wires for you, it could cost thousands of dollars (USD).

 

The best thing is to ask the site engineer/line technician to "find the best pair". Ask about crosstalk, bridge tap, whether the lines are cut short, and whether the "loop length" matches the distance to the terminal or DSLAM.

Old wires aren't necessarily a bad thing. At my old house, my lines were from the 1930's. They were lead-insulated wires, with tons of bridge tap from spliced lines. I still had a good, reliable connection for 4 years. The majority of damage comes from dissimilar metal corrosion at the demarcation point (at your house) and at the crossbox (on the street).

 

Based on your old line statistics you showed me last year, I think you have decent phone lines. You can get a stable broadband DSL connection. (10mbps down/1mbps up) The limitation seems to come with your service plan which is 2mbps down, 0.5mbps up. You might compare prices to see who offers the fastest speed for the lowest price- that's who you should go with.

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surprisingly the site engi doesn't know what to do on pc's he just looks at lines and the telephone he doesn't know about pc connections and stuff, rarely the area incharge comes in and shows me 'ping 218.248.67.2' in cmd (which is their dns server i suppose) and its like 15-20 ms , then says "this shows that the problem is not from our side but to the server side" and i'm like "I know/ can prove its not server side" then he is like "we cant help you this is what we offer if you choose you can terminate the connection" and leaves hence no solution :P i can't even argue with those guys since they tend to think that i'm just another customer who thinks best speed is what i'm looking for. So i sent a complaint to the country hq, then the incharge is like " if you have a fking problem come to us and talk about it why do you want to complaint to hq?" and the process repeats again and again. SO i just quit complaining, the internet was good for a month or 2 but then this all started again.

 

 

I'm not calling them again, so waiting for my new isp to come in and save me lol.

Thanks anyway. i thought the problem was in pc settings and stuff but its isp again. :(

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I have pretty good service from att dsl line.   I use the 45mb down and 5 up.  This line does pretty well, and my pings run from 30ms to 60ms depending on the server.  I usually dont play servers over about 60ms but when i do it seems to do pretty well at those speeds.  If you have att think about them as well.   I know xfinity offers much higher speeds but in their case since its a cable then you can get slower speeds depending on line load.  GL.   Kooki

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I have pretty good service from att dsl line.   I use the 45mb down and 5 up.  This line does pretty well, and my pings run from 30ms to 60ms depending on the server.  I usually dont play servers over about 60ms but when i do it seems to do pretty well at those speeds.  If you have att think about them as well.   I know xfinity offers much higher speeds but in their case since its a cable then you can get slower speeds depending on line load.  GL.   Kooki

Unfortunately my city has like 2 national isp's and some other local isp's, one of which i have booked for a connection since he has fibrenet, but he hasn't covered my area yet, But if att comes to my city and area in the next year i will look at it! thanks

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