JOHNNY008 Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Hi all, after talking with some of you I decided to established this topic, where we can speak about our suggestions for Beg 2 with our Leaders. From my perspective: I would really appreciate if we can have self damage from flamethrower, and bazooka. And if we can have less bots. 2 on each side would help, from my point of view. The last, and main topic from my perspective is new maps. We should change maps more often (lets change 2-3 maps as often as we can (that less played), we do have now 2 goldrush and thats for me not best). We made voting between many of us, and Wooter, or El will come back with results. What do you think? Thanks. Johnny 4 Quote
Raziel Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 +1 for self dmg for flame and zooka. Your other points already have their own topics. # of bots: https://fearless-assassins.com/topic/87030-beginners2-balancing-uneven-teams/page-2 map suggestion: https://fearless-assassins.com/topic/75785-new-maps-beginners-2/page-4 Quote
RendeL Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Agree on the selfdamage, as there are few guys who do sk all the time with flamer or panzer. Would teach them a lesson...Or then restrict 1/team each soldier class, camping with 2 (3?) mg/flame/panzer inside obj rooms makes ppl frustrated. Also couple bots off wouldn't hurt, there are plenty of them still left AND they do block you in spawns. Annoying. We really need the new maps, cant remember if there has been any changes as long as I've played there other than the fata morgana, which isn't played almost at all. 2 gr is not good and the greater access (GA) version would help allies to even get a bit closer to objective from the campers. Imo. Server is busy, so I dont understand why it is getting without attention regarding the reguests we make 5 Quote
JOHNNY008 Posted August 6, 2017 Author Posted August 6, 2017 +1 for self dmg for flame and zooka. Your other points already have their own topics. # of bots: https://fearless-assassins.com/topic/87030-beginners2-balancing-uneven-teams/page-2 map suggestion: https://fearless-assassins.com/topic/75785-new-maps-beginners-2/page-4 Thank you for these topics, but as I can see, there is no move from these topics. We have stil 14 vs. 15 on Beg 2 and it is sometimes really laggy, like today, people are really frustrated then..... I think it would be really helpfull to have less bots..... And maps are still the same as long as I remember..... SO I hope, we can move somewhere in this global suggestion topic for BEG 2 Johnny 2 Quote
Raziel Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Make me a list of maps you want to replace. Afaik you are discussing this already between Beg2 admins. How many Beg2 regs/ admins agree on reducing bots? Make a poll, see how many ppl agree. Once I have an overview for the points you mentioned, I can pass them on. 3 Quote
HutiKuti Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 that could be good if lowering amount of bots, and absolutely need new maps. maybe no voting system as beg#1 self damage sounds good too. and i suggest raise spawn time 8->15 some times is really hard to do nothing becose reinforce arrive. 3 Quote
ElEl Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Make me a list of maps you want to replace. Afaik you are discussing this already between Beg2 admins. How many Beg2 regs/ admins agree on reducing bots? Make a poll, see how many ppl agree. Once I have an overview for the points you mentioned, I can pass them on. Hey Raz, I made a couple of polls a few days ago regarding maps in the group PM. My plan was to take the top 15 or so maps from the addition poll and post it on the forums alongside the one I made for map removals. I'll post the link to both polls here, the results are shown at the bottom. I still think we should remove one or both versions of goldrush and replace them with the GALS version as there's usually too many players on the server for allies to have a chance at getting the gold. Another idea I had was to increase the minimum number of maps needed to be played before a map can be voted on at the end of a game. I think it's currently 6, maybe this should be increased to 8 or 10. Bots could do with being reduced by 2-4 on each team, I know they cause lag for a few people and this would help them out a bit. Regarding spawn times I personally think they should be increased to 15 seconds, maybe 12 with command post. As it is now the attacking team have a really hard time winning on the majority of maps. I'll make a poll for the bots, map voting and spawn times but I won't get around to it till thursday probably so if someone wants to do that feel free https://strawpoll.com/y4c6p4x2 https://strawpoll.com/ghw8h794 Here are the polls from the group PM, just scroll down and click results. I've made a copy of the results as of this time right now but people can go ahead and vote on them both if they want - Just vote for 1944 beach . 5 Quote
Daniëlle Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Yep I agree on reducing the bots and introducing self damage for panzer/flame. The server is busy indeed and many regulars ask for new maps. So that's why we have been trying to get an overview of which maps to remove and which to add 3 Quote
Em!ly Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Agree on selfdamage from flamer and bazooka. Same for all other explosions. Agree on reduce bot amount. Try it for some time. Hope it won't make the server boring (less bots = less amount of players shown in server)... Hey Raz, I made a couple of polls a few days ago regarding maps in the group PM. My plan was to take the top 15 or so maps from the addition poll and post it on the forums alongside the one I made for map removals. I'll post the link to both polls here, the results are shown at the bottom. I still think we should remove one or both versions of goldrush and replace them with the GALS version as there's usually too many players on the server for allies to have a chance at getting the gold. Another idea I had was to increase the minimum number of maps needed to be played before a map can be voted on at the end of a game. I think it's currently 6, maybe this should be increased to 8 or 10. Bots could do with being reduced by 2-4 on each team, I know they cause lag for a few people and this would help them out a bit. Regarding spawn times I personally think they should be increased to 15 seconds, maybe 12 with command post. As it is now the attacking team have a really hard time winning on the majority of maps. I'll make a poll for the bots, map voting and spawn times but I won't get around to it till thursday probably so if someone wants to do that feel free https://strawpoll.com/y4c6p4x2 https://strawpoll.com/ghw8h794 Here are the polls from the group PM, just scroll down and click results. I've made a copy of the results as of this time right now but people can go ahead and vote on them both if they want - Just vote for 1944 beach . Voted! Would really LOVE to see Saberpeak in there! That's such a great map <3 2 Quote
Platinum VIP Rolan001 Posted August 8, 2017 Platinum VIP Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) Im totally agree on selfdamage from flamer and bazooka. Same for all other explosions. also im agree with Hutikuti that at some maps the respawn is too short. Example at goldrush, delivery and Siwa oasis map is the respawn time too short to make advantage or to do something. Im agree with reduce both amount, but first have to look when it needed, only at evening is the server very busy, and i think if you reduce the amount of bots, that the game behavior will change of the human players. On some maps will incresase the game.. like battery and delivery map. Edited August 8, 2017 by Rolan001 2 Quote
Wooter Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Another suggestion that popped up in my mind was to crown a Beg2 regular who is ofc. a FA member ( me? ) able to switch some maps every know and then. Would make life much easier haha. 2 Quote
Dingus Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Been begging forever it seems. Hopefully we get newer maps and discard ones that most loathe. It doesn't matter to me about the self-damage. I am against limiting a particular class though. Sometimes you feel like operating a MG and sometimes a flamethrower. It depends on the map and where you're at on a map a 2nd and 3rd are really the only options. Now, SK I am TOTALLY not in agreement with. I think it should be forbidden. My reason is easy to grasp too. You already died and it puts you in a location where you can just die again because someone wants to camp there? You should be allowed to at least rejoin the game. That's me though, anyone that's played with me knows I don't camp at a spawn point. As for Bots, if the server is crowded with real players they should be eliminated. Use them as a balancing force. Quote
JOHNNY008 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Posted August 10, 2017 I totally Agree, that one of stable regulars FA members on beg 2. should have option to change maps, we should always make voting, and then change.... If this was possible, it would make our live much easier....and BEG 2 could be really interesting server for more regulars... 2 Quote
von Rantala Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Okey for bot amount, we will keep it as it is now. Server name is Beginner and we should keep one server in our clan where is more bots, so new players can learn. We had more bots in jay2 year or two ago and server was very popular close to Jay1. Now not anymore, its empty too often and popularity dropped almost right away when we dropped bot amount. Lets be honest i was suggesting and pushing to get less bots in Jay2 and i dont like play against bots, i do like jay2 more now than before, but if i could go back to moment when i was suggesting to reduce bots i would vote differently. So lets not make same mistake now, lets keep bot amount to current one and keep one server friendly to new comers, if server is popular enough it should not be problem if there is 12 or 15 bot per team, because if server is popular enough you should be able to play without bots most of time. To maps, suggest new maps, let us know what should be removed and i can talk to server management team and we can see when we can update rotation. I agree that it should lock map for 8 maps time before you can re-vote it again, but not more, 8 is max, ppls come to play in the server and would like to play they favorite maps, and mostly ppls cant be server 3-4 hour waiting they favorite map, i think avarage gaming time is close to 1-2h. So if we not allowe ppls to play they favorite maps because we dont let them re-vote already played maps, it will affect to server, ppls go to server then where they can play they favorite maps, so to please both sides, those who play a lot and dont want see same maps all the time, we should make it 8 instead of 6, but not 10 so its not too much. Was there any other questions where you was waiting reply? Quote
RendeL Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 The thing on this very server is, that ppl do like the settings and the mod, adding to that the location as it is an euro server. So here comes also the reason it is popular: EU server. I and others have heard that if we like this or that, we should just try out other servers. It does not work like that. Mod might be the same, but not the settings and what brings most issues is the location. Now to get back to this very server...honestly I and I am sure others too have asked for new maps for like 2 years. Nothing. At the same time silent#1 has got plenty of new maps and yet it was not so popular than b#2, few months back. Now it may be, because ppl dont play so often anymore....reasons you all can read from this topic. Also why not try atlest to reduce the 2 bots (example)/team for a certain period of time. Ofc AFTER some new maps, so that maybe the server could get back to it's popularity... Last, but not least: server name might be something to reconsider. Yes there are nubs, but those nubs are regulars. Such a ppl who ONLY like to join and spend their valuable time to the team by rushing into the enemy spawn OR on some chokepoint to just sit there and flame/panzer the even 30 min map... Even the very new ppl who I see joining from time to time, even they get the hang of the gaming and try to actually play, not just act lame. Skill level is far from beginners, but the mod, location and the settings is what ppl look for and since there is nothing else from F|A to offer....that's why we ask these things, as I understood that's what this forum is for! Since the server gets busy, should there be some other "beginners" server with tons of bots and same maps to try and see if there really is that much fresh ppl around? 5 Quote
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