CheepHeep Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Cheep Cheep Cheep! I've been frequenting the Beg#2 server for a bit now because i realize it is in desperate need of more admins to help regulate the server there. I am not sure why it hasn't been brought up yet but the server there has a real big issue with uneven teams. On Hardcore where i usually play, I would classify 5v7 as uneven. You are lucky to get even that on beginners#2. What I propose is to implement something like what Silent1 has. Have 1 less bot on the weaker team so players are forced to join the weaker team. This should fix the problem because at the moment it is chaos. Here are examples of situations where it is heavily stacked - this happens quite frequently and sometimes multiple times a map. In this ss, it is 4v7. It was even when I joined. Few minutes later it ended up like this. Then later on this happened after I evened them... Another case today: Ive only documented these situations to back up my request to implement this action but I can assure you this is a very common thing there. Would be great to have more admins on B2 to help regulate the server. Thanks! 8 Quote
Daniëlle Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Great idea! Without admins the teams always get stacked but even with admins around people just join the stronger team. They don't seem to understand that's a problem and that they can just join any team they want.. Quote
DFighter Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 It's a diffirent omnibot version or server setting but also in the other omnibot version if you join a team you get forced in, a bot disconnects in the other team so you see frequently people joining 1 team and switch then to the other so even with the other omnibot version or that setting you still will need admins to fix the teams when neededin any case I mentioned it to anni he already saw the topic so I guess lets see what he can do about it 1 Quote
CheepHeep Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 Just went back on Beg#2 I was away 5-10 minutes. Take a looksie. Managed to even them using !Putteam but became uneven again 5 minutes later. @DF - Of course admins still need to be there to help even teams. But hopefully after what I have suggested or something of the like is implemented. It would be a lot easier for the admins. I cant currently play because im sitting in spec just watching teams. And every minute people are moving around... :/ 2 Quote
RendeL Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 This is one of the main reasons I left. Got really sick and tired of switching myself or putting ppl to teams, warning and kicking them for not cooperating. If admin wants to have a nice game there, it is rare that it succees and when you have to start doing the work, you soon notice map is already over or won by rushing. It is killing me now that I cant do much other than switch, switch, switch and warn the worst stackers. I am almost thinking of re-applying to possibly be able to do more... If teams could not get more than 2 real humans more than the other (can be done via lua or server setting), it'd be somewhat pleasant place to play. 10 bots/team is more than enough, there was a vote for it even. Server used to be 2nd at it's best on tb popularity and got full easily when there was the base group of admins not so long ago. And it'd definitely need couple of new maps, have not seen anything new in a year or so! 4 Quote
Koen Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 This is one of the main reasons I left. Got really sick and tired of switching myself or putting ppl to teams, warning and kicking them for not cooperating. If admin wants to have a nice game there, it is rare that it succees and when you have to start doing the work, you soon notice map is already over or won by rushing. It is killing me now that I cant do much other than switch, switch, switch and warn the worst stackers. I am almost thinking of re-applying to possibly be able to do more... If teams could not get more than 2 real humans more than the other (can be done via lua or server setting), it'd be somewhat pleasant place to play. 10 bots/team is more than enough, there was a vote for it even. Server used to be 2nd at it's best on tb popularity and got full easily when there was the base group of admins not so long ago. And it'd definitely need couple of new maps, have not seen anything new in a year or so! +1, too bad nobody will listen What I propose is to implement something like what Silent1 has. Have 1 less bot on the weaker team so players are forced to join the weaker team. This should fix the problem because at the moment it is chaos. This was the case before gameday, but lowering the amount of bots must've broken it or something. 2 Quote
DFighter Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Server used to be 2nd at it's best on tb popularity and got full easily when there was the base group of admins not so long ago. And it'd definitely need couple of new maps, have not seen anything new in a year or so! well to be fair I just was looking in beg2 map suggestion topic there is only 1 map suggested in like 9 months time and it wasnt even from a admin. so if people dont bother to suggest maps its hard to expect it simply will happen I guess 2 Quote
Ann!b@l Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) it was 7vs7.. I made it 7vs8 and made sure than auto-balance feature of omnibot was enabled. Should help you to keep teams balanced and give you more free time to play. So let me know if it suits you. For the rest, suggest new maps in the appropriate topic and I will see what I can do. Edited April 12, 2017 by Ann!b@l 4 Quote
CheepHeep Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 it was 7vs7.. I made it 7vs8 and made sure than auto-balance feature of omnibot was enabled. Should help you to keep teams balanced and give you more free time to play. So let me know if it suits you. For the rest, suggest new maps in the appropriate topic and I will see what I can do. Went on to see. Teams seemed much better thanks! Quote
Koen Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) it was 7vs7.. I made it 7vs8 and made sure than auto-balance feature of omnibot was enabled. Should help you to keep teams balanced and give you more free time to play. So let me know if it suits you. For the rest, suggest new maps in the appropriate topic and I will see what I can do. Someone just asked if the bots will come back (since before it would be minimum 14v15 with bots filling in). What should I tell him and others that will ask this? Edited April 12, 2017 by Koenios~ 1 Quote
Ann!b@l Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Someone just asked if the bots will come back (since before it would be minimum 14v15 with bots filling in). What should I tell him and others that will ask this? that I don't mind making it 14vs15.. You want it 14vs15? 2 Quote
Koen Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) that I don't mind making it 14vs15.. You want it 14vs15? I don't mind either myself, but I think a lot of the new players liked it, since this way there are always easy targets (bots) to kill. It also might keep raters away, which isn't a bad thing for a beginner server. This is pure speculation though. Edited April 12, 2017 by Koenios~ Quote
Ann!b@l Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Wish and I grant.. I can leave it 7vs8.. I can make it 9vs10 or 14vs15.. np Quote
Koen Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Wish and I grant.. I can leave it 7vs8.. I can make it 9vs10 or 14vs15.. np I'll make a poll Quote
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