States want to Secede

[Jefke]

https://www.cia.gov/...ok/geos/so.html

 

sorry some words got appended on there :/

re: routine medical care. I pay 80 bucks for a regular visit, plus anywhere from 5 to 100 bucks for any prescriptions. Any kind of blood work/x-ray/etc will, ofc, be extra.

 

My wife recently had excruciating pain in her ear. This was at 11pm at night, no minor emergency open, obviously no doctor open. She had been puking and running fever for three days prior, and had gone to work anyway. We didn't have the 80-100 bucks for a doc visit. We can't just go see a doc and pay later either, they want money up front (they ain't stupid). So instead of paying 150 or so (after medecine) we'll probably end up paying over a 1000 bucks for the ER visit.

 

The ability to see a doc for a 10 or 20 dollar co-pay could have prevented this. We would have saved money, the government would have saved money. My wife would have been spared the pain.

 

Totally off topic:

 

 

 

Holy shit, 80 dollar for a regular doctor visit.

That's just nuts

 

Here we pay for regular doctor visit (no, idea how to translate to English ) like 22.50 euro (29 dollar)

In the end we don't even pay that, part of it we can recover (dunno exact how much)

 

Any medicine also come on top of that (also partial recoverable)

 

This is only talking about 'regular' doctor visits.

Specialist are more expensive, anywhere between 30 and 50 euro (40-60 dollar)

 

Also stuff like x-ray are charged, but (almost) everything you can partially recover

 

 

+You can have private Health Insurance on top of that (for hospitalization, physiotherapist ,...)

 

 

Hell, I don't like Belgium. But the health care is one of the better parts of it.

 

 

 

Again, this all was totally off topic. Not going the mix with this topic (funny thing how they spoke of states with only 116.000 votes => me guessing that's really only a small part of the state)

[Krayzie]

I'm going off topic about healthcare for a minute to help relate on that topic.

 

I just recently spent around 2 hours in the ER at the hospital I work at to get a couple xrays. After insurance covered their part, I'm paying $285 out of pocket. I think that is quite ridiculous. All they did was take my vitals and take some chest xrays then send me home.

[WeetBix KiD]

I'm going off topic about healthcare for a minute to help relate on that topic.

 

I just recently spent around 2 hours in the ER at the hospital I work at to get a couple xrays. After insurance covered their part, I'm paying $285 out of pocket. I think that is quite ridiculous. All they did was take my vitals and take some chest xrays then send me home.

 

 

See that is crazy. Thats I guess thats what I dont understand. Here in Australia, we have medicare. It means you can have access to anything medical for free as long as you go public not private. You can pay to have private health cover and that will get you surgery faster (if its not life threatening) a nice private room in a hospital or private docters etc. I'm lucky that we have this. My youngest child was born with Hydrocephulas. He has already had to have 3 shunts put into his head due to 2 of the malfunctioning. I did not have to pay for anything. I can only imagine that just after one surgery I would be thousands of dollars in debt. Sure, its all paid by taxpayers....But it also covers all taxpayers. I do not see what could possibly be a negative of this sort of system?

 

Also all medications (scripts) are at a reduced amount. My sons anti-sezuire medication could have cost me $30 for a months supply, but thankfully due to medicare it only cost me $4

[L3ftY.]

my 3 observations and comments, coming from an outsider to the US...

 

 

1. parrott, buddy, run for office. i'd vote for ya in a heart beat, although being canadian i guess i won't.

 

2. the US will split up just as sure as the Mayan calendar predicts the world will end on december 21. give your collective heads a shake. total anarchy and kaos will ensue worldwide if it did, and nobody is going stand by and watch that happen anytime soon.

 

3. the canadian health care system was the envy of the american government a short time ago. it's very similar to the aussie system in that every citizen deserves the right to basic free health care, regardless of their financial status. canadian taxpayers foot the bill for such conveniences. some americans however, argued if they had this system "why should i have to pay for someone else to have these benefits? let the poor pay their own way" and thus, the whole debate about Obama's medicare reforms exploded.

 

 

the US won't implode. more americans will voice their hate for the system, whichever system is in place at that time. it's free speech at it's finest. and unfortunately as someone pointed out earlier - there are only 2 parties to vote for in the US. pick either A or B, this guy or that guy (or gal). this loser or that ****. pick the best of the 2 clowns. sadly, there will never be a third choice.

[parrot]

eh.

 

Too many skeletons in my closet to run for any public office. Plus I've never been all that good at keeping my mouth shut and kissing ass. In a perfect world though...

[kami]

CGPGreys video about this topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92fTz_-kQE

Happy *in'