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[BossHK]

This is the support topic for the tutorial Aiming tutorial for W:ET by BossHK.  Please post here if you have any questions or feedback.

Edited by BossHK, 20 October 2011 - 05:08 AM.

[Mirqli]

Very clear and nicely written tutorial, nothing is missing (not that I noticed) GJ!

[Olykiller]

ive a question: does monitor frequency affect sensitivity in game?

[BossHK]

Olykiller, on 20 October 2011 - 07:13 AM, said:

ive a question: does monitor frequency affect sensitivity in game?

No, it doesn't affect.

[SunLight]

Great tutorial, thanks for sharing

that mouse spreadsheet is really interesting, so g5 has prediction? Sounds bad... is there a way to test this, or they know from some technical specifications?

One thing I have always wanted to know is which is the best sens, I think it is because it's the only setting that is able to influence your movements so much, and often I wrongly blame my mouse sensi instead of focusing on the way I aim, now reading Blade's tutorial and yours I think I am still not sure about the perfect method to find out the best sens (provided that there is really such a thing).

Raziel was right when he said that you have to practice alone, because reflexes and movements are 2 different things and after all the best sensi is the one which is more comfortable for you, and of course the 2 basic movements of the game are tracking and 'point and shoot' aim, so both needs to be tested, but when I find a good sens this way and I go to some server and play I find it's never ok, maybe the switch between 0 ping and 125 fps to playing online with lag and all is hard for me.

One thing I have to say about Aiming by Raziel method is, since enemies move, when they move in the same direction your mouse speed is 0, when they move in the opposite one your mouse speed is twice as much the one you need to track a stationary target, so you should test it with g_speed 640 (instead of 320)?

If only I knew that some sensi was 'the right one' maybe I could stop searching for it and start focusing on the way I actually move, not that I can improve much eh

Olykiller, on 20 October 2011 - 07:13 AM, said:

ive a question: does monitor frequency affect sensitivity in game?

no, you will still need the same space to make a 360 turn, but it affects mouse lag, try moving with 43 fps and 125fps, should be the same difference, I remember I once played with a crt and it felt smoother, now I'm stuck with these crappy 60hz

[Chuckun]

SunLight, on 20 October 2011 - 10:05 AM, said:

I remember I once played with a crt and it felt smoother, now I'm stuck with these crappy 60hz

If I could afford to run my CRT over (LED)LCD then I definitely would for gaming.. Much MUCH better. Problem is, LED backlit LCD Screen = about 10watt.  My CRT was about 100watt lol..

[BossHK]

SunLight, on 20 October 2011 - 10:05 AM, said:

that mouse spreadsheet is really interesting, so g5 has prediction? Sounds bad... is there a way to test this, or they know from some technical specifications?

Open Paint and try to draw a straight line, you will notice that its kinda easy ^^ For example: http://i45.tinypic.com/2u7r2qc.jpg
Mx518 has a little prediction, notice how straight the lines are.

About perfect sens, I didn't go too deep into that because after all it really is very personal preference. It might be that person prefers uber tracking over fast snaps or other way around. Personally I have played for a while(over 1y) with 25cm/360, its kinda medium sens, I can snap easily but still have perfect tracking control. Well, same thing was with 50cm/360 and even 75cm/360. Though my shoulders started to hurt too much when I was snapping, so I decided to learn to play with higher sens. (with 100cm/360 it became kinda hard and mousemat was too small to do anything, eventhough its still 45cm wide)

But I have wrote a method at 2009 to find theorically best sens for you:

7.0 Finding the perfect sensitivity
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Goal: Crosshair follows enemy all the time, preferably at enemy's head.
Half-goal: Crosshair will stay all the time on the one little solid point.
Well, now when everything else has put in order, still you must find the right sensitivity what to use when you are playing. You can affect mouse's cursor/crosshair speed of movement by windows settings, changing DPI and in-game sensitivity. Only in-game sensitivity is sensible to change when finding right sensitivity for you.
NOTICE! WATCH EXAMPLES ABOUT NEXT SUBJECT FROM OTHER NOTEPAD!!!
7.1 Go to empty server and choose some map. At first set some value to sensitivity, for example game's basic 5(command: /seta sensitivity 5). Choose one little solid point from map(about size of your crosshair supposing that you have a dot as crosshair), which is rather at height of head. Start moving left and right(strafing), forward and back, going circle etc. and at same time trying to keep crosshair on that little point. Write down that value(5). Now double value(-->10), write it down and try to keep crosshair on that little point. After that half the original value(-->2,5) write it down and againg try to keep crosshair on that little point.
Notice, if your crosshair is bouncing around and jitters, your sensitivity is probably too high. In turn, if you notice that crosshair is falling behind target when you change direction when strafing or you must picking mouse much, your sensitivity is probably too slow.
Now when you have tried three different values, cross out EITHER highest OR lowest sensitivity, depending on which one felt worse. In this way you eliminate the worst sensitivity, leaving you with the best two sensitivities.
If you kept the higher sens, double it again, but if you kept the lower sens, divide it by two. REPEAT THIS UNTIL YOU GET A WORSE FOR THE NEW SENS. Now you take sens which you chosen and average sens of that moment and then you calculate average sens of those two sens. Then again test those two farthest sens and cross out worse sens, take average sens from two left sens and then again test two farthest sens etc.
Finally when you can't for the life of you tell which of the two sensitivities are worse, you can watch average sens of that moment and see that it's your new sensitivity. Write this value down and play some days with it.
Do this 'finding the sens' -thing a couple of times in different days and use enought time to it. Results should be very close that sensitivity which you get in first time.

7.2 After some days you can start fine tuning of your sensitivity. Set to average sens that sens which you got before. Now instead multiply or divide by two, multiply and divide by 1,25 because you have already found pretty good sensitivity for you, so there is barely big changes. Otherwise operate exactly as in chapter 7.1.

[Blade]

Very nice tutorial! Enjoyed reading it a lot

[SunLight]

@bosshk:
Thanks I will try...

[Nordwolf]

Very good tutorial, thanks for sharing!

[stryder]

very  good tutorial..helpful for novices and  experienced gamers...thx man!

[TANK]

+1 Thank you

[applaud]

Very nice tutorial, in-depth and concise; Also, great job with including those extra links at the end!

[Reallity]

my crap mouse wont go over 125 nice tutorial btw

[yourfriend]

Great tutorial, aiming with the keyboard makes a huge difference! Thanks