Why no maximum of MEDICS in 1 team

[BillyTheKidTV]

Why is there no maximum  amount of medics in one team?
I just played on http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/108.61.21.94:27960/ and did ask if 7 medics out of 8 Germans is not to much and no fun for the other team.

 

A FA admin! in the German team says directly KICK bill???

 

 

is that a normal reaction on a normal question?

Edited November 4, 2014 by BillyTheKidTV

[AnG3L]

Good idea but before, why :

 

- Not !kick rushers ?

- Not !kick stackers ?

- Not !mute trolls ?

- Not !mute whiners ?

 

And for admin complaint post here : http://fearless-assassins.com/forum/71-admin-abuse/

 

AnG3L.

[Kat0n]

Maximum of Medics is 8 as far as I remember, at least it was the case last time I had the opportunity to check. About what the admin told you, we can't do anything without proof and context

[BillyTheKidTV]

Good idea but before, why :

 

- Not !kick rushers ?

- Not !kick stackers ?

- Not !mute trolls ?

- Not !mute whiners ?

 

And for admin complaint post here : http://fearless-assassins.com/forum/71-admin-abuse/

 

AnG3L.

Your right I have to shutupp some times but hey I try to improve my self.

 

Is it a stupit question about a maximum of medics?

[AnG3L]

I said, good idea and next time perhaps post here : http://fearless-assassins.com/forum/49-suggestion/

 

AnG3L

[BillyTheKidTV]

Maximum of Medics is 8 as far as I remember, at least it was the case last time I had the opportunity to check. About what the admin told you, we can't do anything without proof and context

the admin! is always right I was wining because there was no fun against 7 medics. 

 

So sorry no bad thing about them they must understand why I behave and react like that.

 

At least I did say what was in my eyes the problem for the other team to have fun.

 

 

I understand when you wanne be the best they all need to play medic so they can be strong? but is that all that’s matters? isn’t it the fun for all what matters and why there is a multiplayer game?

 

Edited November 4, 2014 by BillyTheKidTV

[Dovaah]

 I understand when you wanne be the best they all need to play medic so they can be strong? but is that all that’s matters? isn’t it the fun for all what matters and why there is a multiplayer game?

" Fun " has not the same meaning for every players though

[Unknown]

Maybe visit silent 1 server where mostly players focus on objectives and medics are able to heal. 

[SunLight]

I was wining because there was no fun against 7 medics.

I understand when you wanne be the best they all need to play medic so they can be strong? but is that all that’s matters?

I think there is a contradiction here, in the 1st quote it looks like you had no fun because of losing against medics, and that means you care about winning and that's what's fun for you.

But in the 2nd part of your post you criticize players because they play medic in order to be strong (i.e. to win fights) and that's the only way to have fun for them...

 

I'm a bit confused...

 

anyway, medics aren't so strong. The only thing is, they can heal after the 1st fight and make a second with full hp, while other classes have to selfkill or be healed by a medic. But in the 1st fight a fieldop can kill a medic without problem, the difference is only few hp.

 

If that matters for you, why don't you play medic yourself? I mean, that's the thing I always say to players who complain about a class or weapon being too strong.

 

Medics are the standard class in ET, why they should be limited? I understand limiting panzerfaust or other things, but medics?

[BillyTheKidTV]

I think there is a contradiction here, in the 1st quote it looks like you had no fun because of losing against medics, and that means you care about winning and that's what's fun for you.

But in the 2nd part of your post you criticize players because they play medic in order to be strong (i.e. to win fights) and that's the only way to have fun for them...

 

I'm a bit confused...

 

anyway, medics aren't so strong. The only thing is, they can heal after the 1st fight and make a second with full hp, while other classes have to selfkill or be healed by a medic. But in the 1st fight a fieldop can kill a medic without problem, the difference is only few hp.

 

If that matters for you, why don't you play medic yourself? I mean, that's the thing I always say to players who complain about a class or weapon being too strong.

 

Medics are the standard class in ET, why they should be limited? I understand limiting panzerfaust or other things, but medics?

Its simple, against a few together running/playing medics near the object its almost imposible to win with a normal (like it shoot be) balanced team. 

Your solution is make a server with only medics. 

For you it is fun like that but for most of the other players not the meaning of THIS game.

[LuCkY*13]

I play always as engie and engies have less 37 hp than medics and that dont stop me from killing them.

 

so maybe you got to rethink if the problem is the medics or the way you play...

[SunLight]

Your solution is make a server with only medics. 

not really... but in a situation where Axis needs only medics and Allies also need an engineer (or other classes), it would be stupid to tell Axis 'hey it's unfair if you play with an all-medics team' and it would be stupid for them to play something else.

 

I think players should pick the class they want, and the class they feel is appropriate for the situation. The only exception would be (imho) classes or weapons which would make the game 'uglier' or totally random if they exceed a certain number (e.g. heavy weapons like panzerfaust)

 

But obviously we come from different backgrounds and different worlds, so we can never agree.

 

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I used to play only etpro, and I also had a team and we played (just for fun) against other teams, we had tactics for every map, etc.etc. in other words we played (trying to ape the real teams and failing, but still we played) the 'real' game called Enemy Territory, not the mockery they play in public servers (no offense meant).

 

Players who only played Jaymod never played the real game (I know it sounds bad, but it's a truth) so they still talk about things like limiting medics etc.

I never saw you playing and I try not to judge people I don't know, but if you can't kill a medic as engineer I think you should practice more. If a couple of hp is too much for you, then you would probably die against a skilled engineer or fieldop as well.

 

Ah, by the way, there is no 'team' in public servers, so I don't even know what you mean when you say 'impossible to win'. Win? And what exactly? Completing the objective in a server where Axis doesn't even defend and they go for fragging? Doing the obj in public servers is often a solo job done just for fun, you can't really expect any help from your team.

 

And it's also meaningless, because there is no stopwatch and each map is played just once, defenders could be better than attackers and nobody knows, because the map is played only once, and they can't show you they could have won it faster than you.

And still in the intermission all the newbies going like 'yeaahh! I won! I'm cool because I won a map in a public server where axis wasn't even defending, and I had 30 minutes for a map while on etpro they have 12-15 minutes' big deal I would say... (again no offense meant)

 

When I played team vs team I died a lot (I often played as engineer, and I am also unskilled) but the only thing that mattered was trying to help my team. In public servers you can't have this, because it's just a bunch of random players who don't care about each other.

 

Just have fun and play, I mean, when you say 'most of the other players' are you sure that it's not just 'you and a few others'?

You say 'for you it is fun like that' but in reality it's not. I played (for fun and lowskill but still I played) the real game, so I don't find it fun to play for objectives in public servers without stopwatch mode, because it can never be like etpro. Never. Period. That's why I usually play to frag, and *not* because I don't like the objectives.

 

peace

 

sry for the long post, maybe I should write a novel... I know people nowadays don't read anything longer than 10 words

[BillyTheKidTV]

I play always as engie and engies have less 37 hp than medics and that dont stop me from killing them.

 

so maybe you got to rethink if the problem is the medics or the way you play...

yep YOU can win from 7 medics on the object, your GOOD

[BillyTheKidTV]

not really... but in a situation where Axis needs only medics and Allies also need an engineer (or other classes), it would be stupid to tell Axis 'hey it's unfair if you play with an all-medics team' and it would be stupid for them to play something else.

 

I think players should pick the class they want, and the class they feel is appropriate for the situation. The only exception would be (imho) classes or weapons which would make the game 'uglier' or totally random if they exceed a certain number (e.g. heavy weapons like panzerfaust)

 

But obviously we come from different backgrounds and different worlds, so we can never agree.

 

---

 

I used to play only etpro, and I also had a team and we played (just for fun) against other teams, we had tactics for every map, etc.etc. in other words we played (trying to ape the real teams and failing, but still we played) the 'real' game called Enemy Territory, not the mockery they play in public servers (no offense meant).

 

Players who only played Jaymod never played the real game (I know it sounds bad, but it's a truth) so they still talk about things like limiting medics etc.

I never saw you playing and I try not to judge people I don't know, but if you can't kill a medic as engineer I think you should practice more. If a couple of hp is too much for you, then you would probably die against a skilled engineer or fieldop as well.

 

Ah, by the way, there is no 'team' in public servers, so I don't even know what you mean when you say 'impossible to win'. Win? And what exactly? Completing the objective in a server where Axis doesn't even defend and they go for fragging? Doing the obj in public servers is often a solo job done just for fun, you can't really expect any help from your team.

 

And it's also meaningless, because there is no stopwatch and each map is played just once, defenders could be better than attackers and nobody knows, because the map is played only once, and they can't show you they could have won it faster than you.

And still in the intermission all the newbies going like 'yeaahh! I won! I'm cool because I won a map in a public server where axis wasn't even defending, and I had 30 minutes for a map while on etpro they have 12-15 minutes' big deal I would say... (again no offense meant)

 

When I played team vs team I died a lot (I often played as engineer, and I am also unskilled) but the only thing that mattered was trying to help my team. In public servers you can't have this, because it's just a bunch of random players who don't care about each other.

 

Just have fun and play, I mean, when you say 'most of the other players' are you sure that it's not just 'you and a few others'?

You say 'for you it is fun like that' but in reality it's not. I played (for fun and lowskill but still I played) the real game, so I don't find it fun to play for objectives in public servers without stopwatch mode, because it can never be like etpro. Never. Period. That's why I usually play to frag, and *not* because I don't like the objectives.

 

peace

 

sry for the long post, maybe I should write a novel... I know people nowadays don't read anything longer than 10 words

okey sorry I thought this was a public server, my fault. I did only read 5     lol.

 

no i only try to say, why all together on the object (they do have a name for that) as medics.

 

where not in a PRO territory.    

 

LETS HAVE FUN for all

Edited November 6, 2014 by BillyTheKidTV

[Mr.Karizmatic]

some of them have fun with medics and sometimes they become rambo medics so every one enjoy playing in some particular class like i see most of time you as soldier and u play it cause u like it and same goes with other and if a team has 8 or 7 medics that doesnt mean they are ending the fun sometimes 4 or 5 of them wont be rambos just going for kills with adren they might give backup to engineers of covertops but personally i say its awesome to play against them so we can piss them off by killing and winning...