RockET Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, captnconcrete said: quick question on this i still have this problem takes 4 trys to get my pc on once on i can scan it with every tool undersun and it tells me pc is fine..lol at shut down case fans stay barley on light is dim barley spin. and cpu fan barley spin.. i have a 400watt psu laying here its +3.3v 30a +5v28a +12v1 14a 12v2 15a 348 watt combined and 140w max .. would this be worthy of tryin or is waste and gonna fubar me? try it. wont hurt. 1 Quote
captnconcrete Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 thanks for the responses i did lookher all over and took all aprat and cleaned both psu and mobo .. mobo looked fine but the psu looked like it had cancer .lol klean up nice tho im give this little puss psu a try tonight.. after my et season 1 Quote
HOTSPUR Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 @captnconcrete when in doubt take the memory out 👍 On 11/28/2018 at 1:46 AM, captnconcrete said: old ass pc built long ago .its like 13 yrs old . k9a2neo msi mobo 550 roswill psu aspire case 6 gigs 6400 ddr2 ram segate 250 gig sata hdd 8800gts 320 my pc wont shut off or turn on correctly ive tried every dam thing i can find and think ..tried all the w7 settins for power even the nic card power setting .. nothing works if i turn off pc my cpu fan and my case fans stay on but seems they arent full power cpu fan skips on off. rest of pc seems to shut down .. it some times says oced warning i have to reset cmos to fix. im baffled if it was my mobo or psu why would it turn back on .. also temps are fine all cmd prompt scans come back fine. i have to shut off at switch on back of pc.. when i turn back on it comes on but dont post i have to push power button to make it load then its even iffy takes sevral tries. maybe ill try putting my reset button on my power button only thing i can fathom it being is this junky case power button..any one ver experienced a issue like this. also already messed with all the bios settings for this and also reset to fail safe settings still this problem Quote
captnconcrete Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) did that ran memory scan too its fine i tookher allapart today.. every piece out .. had it all out on table ..cleaned it all inspected every bit ..put it back together .. and same dam shit.lol time for new pc.. vcore 3.00v +3.3v 3.11v vccv3 3.23 v vcore 1.20v vram 2.18v vchipset 1.27v +5v 5.38v +12v 9.68v vcc1.5v 0.73v vsb3v 3.23 v vbat 3.20v psu is 550sli rosewill Edited February 28, 2019 by captnconcrete Quote
RockET Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, captnconcrete said: did that ran memory scan too its fine i tookher allapart today.. every piece out .. had it all out on table ..cleaned it all inspected every bit ..put it back together .. and same dam shit.lol time for new pc.. vcore 3.00v +3.3v 3.11v vccv3 3.23 v vcore 1.20v vram 2.18v vchipset 1.27v +5v 5.38v +12v 9.68v vcc1.5v 0.73v vsb3v 3.23 v vbat 3.20v psu is 550sli rosewill And you have ran a n overnight ram test? Also could just be the mb is done. 1 Quote
Xernicus Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, captnconcrete said: did that ran memory scan too its fine i tookher allapart today.. every piece out .. had it all out on table ..cleaned it all inspected every bit ..put it back together .. and same dam shit.lol time for new pc.. vcore 3.00v +3.3v 3.11v vccv3 3.23 v vcore 1.20v vram 2.18v vchipset 1.27v +5v 5.38v +12v 9.68v vcc1.5v 0.73v vsb3v 3.23 v vbat 3.20v psu is 550sli rosewill You try that 450w PSU yet? That will provide plenty of power. But that looks fine +12v is most likely 12.68v- lots of software reads AM2/AM3 SMBus incorrectly. HWInfo64 is some of the only software that does it right. This is confusing: vcore 3.00v -- impossible vcore 1.20v -- about right. Your fan controller is powered right? By like Molex or SATA? Also RAM isn't gonna affect fan speed or lights guys... c'mon. Edited February 28, 2019 by Xernicus 1 Quote
captnconcrete Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 that 400 watt psu is dead ..lol i opened it up an i guess its seen rain.lol my ram is gskill 2gig sticks 3 of em 6400ddr2 800 could the ram and the 9850quad core not be happy with each other.. i think i seen somewhere that i shoulda got 1066 ram to go with that quadcore. cuz i do get a oced boot lockup everyonce in while . then i have to reset cmos. my own thoughts is psu going wonky or my mobo fan cotroller is fubar. i took out my old fan swtich i had..thinking it was culprit..i have my fans plugged in to mobo fan system spots.. if i hold my powerbutton in and flip switch on back of psu on it boots right up. this pc is weird im puzzled.. an i have had this issue for almost a yr now. if it was dieing ud think it would be melted by now. Quote
Xernicus Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, captnconcrete said: that 400 watt psu is dead ..lol i opened it up an i guess its seen rain.lol my ram is gskill 2gig sticks 3 of em 6400ddr2 800 could the ram and the 9850quad core not be happy with each other.. i think i seen somewhere that i shoulda got 1066 ram to go with that quadcore. cuz i do get a oced boot lockup everyonce in while . then i have to reset cmos. my own thoughts is psu going wonky or my mobo fan cotroller is fubar. i took out my old fan swtich i had..thinking it was culprit..i have my fans plugged in to mobo fan system spots.. if i hold my powerbutton in and flip switch on back of psu on it boots right up. this pc is weird im puzzled.. an i have had this issue for almost a yr now. if it was dieing ud think it would be melted by now. Mmm... I don't think RAM speed is problem. It's just slower RAM, that's a performance thing. All of the K9A2's have support for 800Mhz RAM. You mentioned that this started happening after adding a third DIMM? I guess it is possible that the BIOS doesn't like the memory XMP profile on that third stick and the automatic voltages or timings are wrong. But that doesn't account for the weird behavior when your computer is off. And I'd think you'd be getting error messages everytime you started your PC if that was the root of the problem....But that additional DIMM could be just enough to sag the voltage line and throw errors or a no POST though- I've seen that on older or failing PSUs... I'd be very curious to see if removing that DIMM makes the boot problem go away. I guess if it does, then your PSU probably can't deliver what it's rated for (at least any more). But that fan spin thing while the computer is off, and they're plugged into the mobo headers... that has me slightly stumped. Could be leakage on a rail. There could be something backfeeding voltage, like a powered HDMI splitter perhaps? It could be a compatibility issue with Windows 10 "Fast Boot" and your BIOS- I'd try turning that off. When fan controllers fail though, they usually just don't work- or fans are at 100%, they're solid state. Anyways, this is just me throwing ideas around at this point... guess I need some food lol 1 Quote
Xernicus Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 6 hours ago, captnconcrete said: os is w7 sp1 Well that rules out fast boot then, good to know... I guess you mentioned that already though. Could you share the part number of your motherboard? ie: what's printed in the area I put a blue box around. What I'd do for now though- as a troubleshooting measure at least- is pick up a new PSU. If you've got something like a Best Buy nearby, go for an EVGA, ThermalTake, or Corsair CX-M series. This has two benefits: -If it fixes your issue, you're good to go- and you can consider it the first part for your new rig. -If it doesn't solve the problem, you still have the first part for your new rig 450W would be plenty- go for 650W if you'd be looking at mid-range SLI or future proofing for 125-140W CPU's, RAID, etc. Also: think I said this in PM- but avoid Rosewill components like the plague. There is no quality control, it's a generic "blanket" brand. Worse yet, there are several manufacturers using it- so you could get a good product one shipment and complete trash on a second, similar product. Quote
captnconcrete Posted March 1, 2019 Author Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) that looks ex actually like my board. my 8800gts is size of a vw bus it covers all that ill loook later. i really appreciate all the help u have givin me so far ur a valuable asset to this group much kudos bud. Edited March 1, 2019 by captnconcrete Quote
Xernicus Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 4 hours ago, captnconcrete said: ms -7388 Awesome, and just to double check- it's a Rev 1.0? Quote
captnconcrete Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 i will be taking it apart again to day.. after i took apart last time ive had it crash three times hard... first two it just locked up and machinegunned till i shut her down .. last time i got a blue screen utoh....ima swap out my 8800gts for my 8600gs an ima take out one stick ram. 8600 sucks tho doesnt like fire in et. Quote
captnconcrete Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 it isms-7388 1.0 yes .. ok this am i loaded age of empires 3 war chiefs my temps went holy cow high. gpu was at 81c and climbing and cpu was at 71c. not good. normally its 53c gpu and 39c cpu. so i shut her down took out gpu.. took off cover it was dirty big time.. so i swaped in a tiny little 8400gs for now.. im thinking i dont like this card it doesnt like fire in et. an has no power plug on it..yukky. booted first time i turned on.. but my other case fans still do the wonky.an cpu. so i turn on with this little tiny gpu and bam pc start dl alkinds a shit and i cant stop it.lol Quote
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