Summer Gaming Computer

[St0rmSlaSh]

I have semi-finally made up my mind on what kind of computer I want to get! I made a PC Partpicker list and submitted it on their forums. Here is the link! I appreciate any kind of input and advice

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bJkkPs

[Krusnik87]

I dunno about the amound of money you can use, however, if you can add 20 USD to what you intend to use, I would do this:

 

change the RAM for this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKdFf7/team-dark-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tdged416g3000hc16cdc01 instead of the Corsair,

and add this SSD of 120GB: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26 so that you can install your OS on it.

 

(yes the RAM i selected is more or less 30 USD cheaper than the corsair version, and allows ya for 20 USD bucks to add a SSD which will be helpfull )

 

Here how it should look like. 

[St0rmSlaSh]

I dunno about the amound of money you can use, however, if you can add 20 USD to what you intend to use, I would do this:

 

change the RAM for this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKdFf7/team-dark-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tdged416g3000hc16cdc01 instead of the Corsair,

and add this SSD of 120GB: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26 so that you can install your OS on it.

 

(yes the RAM i selected is more or less 30 USD cheaper than the corsair version, and allows ya for 20 USD bucks to add a SSD which will be helpfull )

 

Here how it should look like. 

I was messing around with PC Part Picker last night and I came up with this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yf8jQV

 

It had a sort of newer CPU that came out, but only .3 GHz faster than the 6600k, so I thinking of overclocking this one or staying with the 6600k.

 

I also found a new case that looks really nice and has some solid reviews on it.

 

The RAM is the same, though it is now 16 GB of Crucial DDR4 2400, which has a lesser speed than the list you showed me.

 

But the SSD on this machine has more storage with a regular 1TB hard drive. 

 

Graphics are the same as well.

[Krusnik87]

What about this?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx92LD

[redy.]

Krus yours has a micro atx board.

 

In general: dont spend too much on the mainboard if you dont plan to overclock.

 

important is CPU and GPU. if you go with 16GB memory and a 250GB SSD you are golden.

Like i said, try to spend your $ on Processor and Graphics card.

 

What about this one:

- https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWqPD8

[redy.]

in addition:

 

I love the page http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder You can plugin your parts and it gives you some more details about efficiency and "bang for the buck" than pcpartpicker.

[Xernicus]

My suggestion would be this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ttLpnn

Prices are over-inflated... like usual from pcpartpicker.
But trust me, you are getting a better bang for your buck from Ryzen than any Intel processor.

I see you are looking primarily at clock speed "GHz"... you need to be looking at Instructions Per Clock or "IPC".

Now I somewhat chose these parts at random... but it is like something like my next planned build:
-Ryzen CPU

-Crucial Ballistix memory (have yet to personally see a single Ballistix stick fail)
-MSI mobo
-RX 480 or Vega GPU
-600-650w PSU

I would recommend an 'Arctic' cooler over the Hyper EVO though. I have an Arctic A11 cooler on my system right now, and I get idle temps on a Vishera/Piledriver CPU at 80 degrees F, and 120 F at 100% usage across 8 cores, overclocked. They're cheaper and just as good. Silent too.

Comparison of Intel CPU you chose vs Ryzen:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/28/AMD_Ryzen_5_1600_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6600K.html
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3503vs3919

EDIT: Now I do have to say that NVidia GPUs will perform better than AMD GPUs in ET. There is a limitation with ET that truncates the OpenGL extensions on AMD cards. That means that the card is essentially working 2-3x as hard as it should be to do the math for ET graphics. I am looking at and working on a fix for the new Crimson drivers... but it is a long process, and I will need to consult with the folks here and at MyGamingTalk to prevent false-positive anticheat bans with the method I am testing right now.

In the meantime... It seems to me that AMD cards are limited to 333fps maximum (with huge buffer-bloat) with 76fps being the most stable (ie: not overloading buffers)

[St0rmSlaSh]

My suggestion would be this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ttLpnn

 

Prices are over-inflated... like usual from pcpartpicker.

But trust me, you are getting a better bang for your buck from Ryzen than any Intel processor.

I see you are looking primarily at clock speed "GHz"... you need to be looking at Instructions Per Clock or "IPC".

 

Now I somewhat chose these parts at random... but it is like something like my next planned build:

-Ryzen CPU

-Crucial Ballistix memory (have yet to personally see a single Ballistix stick fail)

-MSI mobo

-RX 480 or Vega GPU

-600-650w PSU

 

I would recommend an 'Arctic' cooler over the Hyper EVO though. I have an Arctic A11 cooler on my system right now, and I get idle temps on a Vishera/Piledriver CPU at 80 degrees F, and 120 F at 100% usage across 8 cores, overclocked. They're cheaper and just as good. Silent too.

 

Comparison of Intel CPU you chose vs Ryzen:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/28/AMD_Ryzen_5_1600_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6600K.html

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3503vs3919

 

EDIT: Now I do have to say that NVidia GPUs will perform better than AMD GPUs in ET. There is a limitation with ET that truncates the OpenGL extensions on AMD cards. That means that the card is essentially working 2-3x as hard as it should be to do the math for ET graphics. I am looking at and working on a fix for the new Crimson drivers... but it is a long process, and I will need to consult with the folks here and at MyGamingTalk to prevent false-positive anticheat bans with the method I am testing right now.

 

In the meantime... It seems to me that AMD cards are limited to 333fps maximum (with huge buffer-bloat) with 76fps being the most stable (ie: not overloading buffers)

 

 

in addition:

 

I love the page http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder You can plugin your parts and it gives you some more details about efficiency and "bang for the buck" than pcpartpicker.

 

 

Krus yours has a micro atx board.

 

In general: dont spend too much on the mainboard if you dont plan to overclock.

 

important is CPU and GPU. if you go with 16GB memory and a 250GB SSD you are golden.

Like i said, try to spend your $ on Processor and Graphics card.

 

What about this one:

- https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWqPD8

 

 

What about this?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx92LD

 

These are all very nice computers, and I will be definitely keeping these in mind. I will be doing a lot of research on the different systems you guys have suggested, and I will see which one I will buy. Thanks guys for helping me out <3

 

@Krus The manager of the restaurant I want to work at only excerpts 16-year-olds now.... So I will be getting the PC in Jan and Feb, I will try to get it as soon as possible so I can kick your ass on Insurgency <3 I also want you to meet my uncle and some friends and we can all play together, as well as Xern and Redy if they are up to it <3

[redy.]

I will kill you all in insurgency. BTW xernicus lost his left little finger in a mining accident back in the 90is. So don't be to hard on him

[Xernicus]

Sure thing man, I'd be down to play insurgency. I can guarantee you whatever team I'm on will lose... but hey, it'll be fun.

[Vanaraud]

Would like to point out some things:

 

 -Corsairs CX 600W seems to be more quiet than EVGA BQ 600W.(and the  new EVGA G3 lineup is as noisy as fighter jets, dunno whats up with EVGA lately.)

 - building a micro ATX based build, triple check the dimensions of GPU, CPU cooler

 - it isn´t reasonable to pair K-CPU with a motherboard with a B-chipset, you´d put money on a CPU which power you won´t be able to use anyway.

 - building AMD Ryzen based PC, be sure to double check the RAM QVL list for the chosen motherboard, if budget allows get higher clocked RAM.

[Xernicus]

Would like to point out some things:

 - it isn´t reasonable to pair K-CPU with a motherboard with a B-chipset, you´d put money on a CPU which power you won´t be able to use anyway.

 - building AMD Ryzen based PC, be sure to double check the RAM QVL list for the chosen motherboard, if budget allows get higher clocked RAM.

You can overclock an 'X' series Ryzen cpu on a B-series chipset, and it'll power it just fine. It's a mainstream gaming board. It's the A-series that are barebones in terms of specs and can't overclock.

Back in the days of Piledriver, I'd say you would be correct.

 

Sure, an X-series would be better, and I suppose if you wanted to have a SLI/Crossfire setup, or a Ryzen 7 I'd recommend it... but the prices are much higher.

 

Summary: http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/chipsets/am4#

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3175005/computers/amd-ryzen-motherboards-explained-the-crucial-differences-in-every-am4-chipset.html

 

B350 Motherboards:

This will probably wind up being the sweet spot for PC gamers who stick to single-GPU setups. CPU overclocking is unlocked on B350 motherboards, and compared to the bare-bones A320 boards, this chipset packs in support for an additional 10Gbps USB 3.1 port as well as two more PCIe lanes for cutting-edge SSDs and whatnot.

The kicker here is that multi-GPU setups are not supported by B350. I’ve seen reports of specific B350 models allowing AMD CrossFire multi-GPU configurations—but that is not something you should count on.

[Vanaraud]

Oops, haven´t used to AMD being back in game.

When I´m talking about pairing up K-series CPU-s with B-series mobo, then I´m thinking about Intel i5\i7(Kaby Lake has one i3 even on the line, which can be OC-d) CPU-s.

But you are right, AMD is much more lenient on pairing up mobo and CPU, though their CPU-s won´t OC very much.