Biggest issue Ive seen lately

[Shogun!]

Stacking. 

 

Unfortunately most of the time the only admins on the beginners server are level 12's which cannot shuffle, and aren't going to take the time to !put players one by one into teams.  It would be nice if the level 12 admins could !shuffle.  Its too bad that the worst stacking offenders are the players with higher xp like etc--crazy-oh, _ _ --__, and others.  Can't help their lack of a sense of sportsmanship (probably young kids) but again, a !shiffle command for your level 12 admins would help out a lot.

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..Vent over...thanks for listening

[Kat0n]

Lvl 12 admins have put, warn and kick and should use them.

 

@admins if you meet stackers warn them 3 times and then kick them... don't be lazy, !put command is meant to be used in this kind of situation.

[bo0m]

Stacking. 

 

Unfortunately most of the time the only admins on the beginners server are level 12's which cannot shuffle, and aren't going to take the time to !put players one by one into teams.  It would be nice if the level 12 admins could !shuffle.  Its too bad that the worst stacking offenders are the players with higher xp like etc--crazy-oh, _ _ --__, and others.  Can't help their lack of a sense of sportsmanship (probably young kids) but again, a !shiffle command for your level 12 admins would help out a lot.

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..Vent over...thanks for listening

Why do you think shuffle would resolve anything,? Players who are used to stack will continue doing so no matter what (talking from experience what I've seen.). Even after penalties like warn/kick or even ban they come back with same attitude. There was some discussion before about levels and commands but it ain't that simple. We can try to guide players how to act & behave on server, but cannot force them to change themselves if they alone don't want so. We can just monitor and act when needed to try to preserve situation on server as best as possible. It's good that you pointed out some players so admins can keep an eye on them. Hopefully they will learn & accept our rules. Or it will be taken care in other way. Either way, thank you for your post and concerne, such kind of regulars are apprecieted. Don't hesitate to PM me or any other admin on server or here when you notice some rulebreaking of any kind. In the end if no one of our members are online, please next time make an SS or demo as proof of any kind of rulebreaking. So it's easier for us to act asap.

Once again thank you for your post, I'm sure the situation will be resolved in some way.

 

Regards, Bo0m

[Shogun!]

---I'm not talking about 1 player. That's easy to deal with, but when 5 or 6 are stacking its an issue

 

The shuffle would help.  I have  !put command myself also but moving 4 or 5 players around/ is not practical, and it leads to bad blood when its a level 4 guy looking like hes stacking his own teams, lol  .  If there is a shuffle then an admin can easily deal with 1 or two that deliberately move themselves after it. 

Edited April 10, 2016 by Shogun!

[bo0m]

As I allready wrote above shuffle won't stop them to go spec and switch to other team again. With higher ammount of bot's and less players that's an issue. And nobody is lazy to use their commands. But we cannot act when no members on server. We did suggest adding shuffle in the same time when I asked for reducing bot's. We can suggest but finally leaders decide. I'm aware of that problem m8. We all are and doing best we can to prevent such things. But changing admin cmds structure is not up to us "mortals"

[Shogun!]

I don't think I accused anyone of being "lazy" with their commands, only that its an issue for them when they can't shuffle.  Again, its not an issue when its just one or two people stacking, but when there are 10-12 players on a team and half the team is stacked, its an issue, and the only fair or expedient alternative is a shuffle.

 

I understand its a senior leadership decision, I made them myself when I owned a clan years ago--just wanted to bring it up--thanks! 

[bo0m]

Nobody said you accused anyone, I was reffering to kat0n's post. And yes we are aware of the situation, that's why you see lately new members on server. I myself am not much active lately due to rl stuff but I'm sure other members who are on are doing best they can to deal with such trollers.

Again thank you for the proposition, as I said I asked for that myself few months back. This post and your pointing out of some rulebreakers is also one step forward.

[Anton Chigurh]

Well you where a Trial once so you know how it works.

Boom explained it perfectly, and you can always ask help from admins present on other servers.

They are suppsed to sort it out.

Maybe use evolve for calling help?

 

Or do you want to apply for membership again?

[D..X]

Stacking. 

 

Unfortunately most of the time the only admins on the beginners server are level 12's which cannot shuffle, and aren't going to take the time to !put players one by one into teams.  It would be nice if the level 12 admins could !shuffle.  Its too bad that the worst stacking offenders are the players with higher xp like etc--crazy-oh, _ _ --__, and others.  Can't help their lack of a sense of sportsmanship (probably young kids) but again, a !shiffle command for your level 12 admins would help out a lot.

 

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..Vent over...thanks for listening

so we are clear begginers 1 or 2?

[Anton Chigurh]

so we are clear begginers 1 or 2?

 

If i look at the playernames i guess 1

[bo0m]

Rofl as I saw he has beginners#2 stated on his profile I thought he was talking about the same one..

[Shogun!]

I've played on both.  Today it was on Beg 1.   No, I resigned from trial as I was not good at recruiting--I had gone over 6 months without recruiting anyone--I doubt I'd be any better now, but thanks for the offer.
Just so we're clear, I didn't say there were no admins on--there usually are, but usually they are not above level 12.  Today for instance there was 1 or two level 12's on but they don't have !shuffle, and I doubt they wanted to spend their time moving 5 or 6 players around--frankly, in today's instance they didn't even seem to notice the stacking, one game score ended at ~3000 to ~1900.  I suggested in open chat that someone do a shuffle but no response from the admins so I'm guessing they knew they couldn't do it so didn't respond. I can see it happening once, but 3 games in a row it was like that.

 

  The admins do a good job overall--they are polite and friendly.

Edited April 10, 2016 by Shogun!

[Kat0n]

Ofc some people are lazy, too lazy to even, too lazy to warn, too lazy to put. Laziness happens to everyone, more or less frequently. But when several admins are on and no one uses !put to move people from stronger team to weaker team (it takes what 10 seconds, 30 seconds if you have to deal with major stackers) then we start to have a problem.

[bo0m]

Agree. But never have witness such situation tbh. But I know it happens. Well sometimes even I dont see that teams are uneven and need reminder but that's not from lazyness just too focused on game. But yeh shit happens

[DFighter]

!put command always is better then shuffle but in this case the issue is that bots should be fixed
normally when a player joins a team a bot leaves from the other team, so that the next person have to join the other team
since there were issues in begginners this stopped now you have equal amount of bots and when a player joins the amount stays the same
 then you have people that dont watch before joining in when they come in limbo they see equal amount of players and just join
and then ofcourse a lot of morons that keep stacking dispite countless warns or requests to watch the teams before joining in

Edited April 11, 2016 by DFighter