The Lost Art of Defense ????????

[MosesIsComingLookBusy]

Now here is the funny thing. If fraggers like F3@r, and many other, Fear as an example here. If they all just sacrificed a few deaths toward getting one obj out of many, for an example, the whole round will be completely different. It will also give a very intense game. If more high fraggers started doing obj, other might follow. You know me, I like to frag sure, who doesn't, but you also see me screaming in team chat for obj. Now just imagine how the game would be if the 3 fraggers on each team went for the objective instead? Hoho what a game of the year we would have had. Be inspired to do objective. Completeing an objective when playing against good players gives a much more feeling of acomplishment than a high KD ratio would, since truth be told, high kd fraggers don't have the problem getting good KD anyway. 

So why not put a smile on this tired soul and PTFO!

Edited September 14, 2014 by MosesIsComingLookBusy

[Line Out]

i love the eng role.....riffle nades are fun...to think of it...all of these years and finally all that pain and suffering through Trigonometry finally pays off....

[MosesIsComingLookBusy]

i love the eng role.....riffle nades are fun...to think of it...all of these years and finally all that pain and suffering through Trigonometry finally pays off....

Hehe yes indeed it does! Love the k43 rifle rnade. Think it is the best weapon in the game.

[Saintmire]

It really depends on my mood. Sometimes i just like to kill as much as I can, other times i really focus on objective.

 

It helps if your team is doing actual teamwork, then you can set up a good defense. If everyone is f-ing around, ill just frag

[//Saint Aiolia//]

there are map to kill and no obj
example: purefrag
that's why the number of card it would be interesting to put a card to let off steam.

[SunLight]

I don't want to sound repetitive here, since I wrote this in past threads about sw mode, but another reason why I don't do the obj is this:

Some maps are way too easy to win, or way too hard. That is, Axis always wins or Allies always win.

To me, it makes sense if 2 equally skilled teams have the same chance of winning, and this can happen only in maps like baserace.

 

In other maps it happens only if you play the map twice (like they do in competitions) but in most public servers you have players who leave before the second round, unbalanced teams, players who don't know what to do or who don't care, etc. etc.

 

I don't see why I have to die a ton of times for those players. It's something I do only rarely when there are more players trying to cooperate. If I have to die and die, I would do it for a clanmate on a sw match, or maybe friends in a pub server, not some random guy I don't even know, and who doesn't even care, and maybe disconnects before the map is over.

 

It's all random because there are too many players, too many of them have never played for real - not that I really know how to do it myself! Aside from watching some ettv and some 3on3 (veeeery rarely 6on6) activity in 2008-2009, I always played pub and no obj - and there is obviously no team play, just random confusion.

 

When someone tries to rush and I want to block them, it's fun to defend. Or maybe when there is almost no chance to win a map (e.g. goldrush) it could be fun trying to get the gold, but I don't get it when those guys rush adlernest or similar maps, and they are all proud because they easily won a map when nobody was defending

[MosesIsComingLookBusy]

See your point Sun. But maps like Goldrush is actually easy for allies, just throw smoke and you win, but as you said it is public and most players don't take advantage of their classe, which is a big issue. 

Edited September 16, 2014 by MosesIsComingLookBusy

[SunLight]

I actually have fun doing the obj when I can try alone, and when it's hopeless ^^ but here we are talking about defending, and while it's not only about camping (because if you defend too low enemies can advance) it usually is

 

I prefer to play aggressively and attack, I don't enjoy camping

[Immortalizt]

I agree. I like duing the obj, both defending and attacking and if a engi is not duing the job right i step in and do it. but thats just me.

[staticwarp]

remembering to hang back and defend is tough because there's not always enemies to shoot. i think a lot of people (me included XD) instinctively rush ahead and start shooting because standing there waiting near the obj to defend it is no fun sometimes, especially maps like oasis where there are a few directions enemies can come from. i guess to defend effectively you have to also have good communication and teamwork, telling each other where enemies are coming from and where defense needs to be reinforced. 

 

sometimes its sufficient to just vsay "defend our objective" if it's being attacked, other maps we really need to tell each other where to be. something like "they're coming through the caves" on oasis so everyone knows to get over the wall and watch for allies, or vice versa, "they're coming from the old city" so everyone knows to get through that archway and watch those doorways. rarely is the attack split evenly between those two points, so in this example it would be easy to keep the objectives defended just by watching and gathering around the choke points. easy, that is, if we're communicating with each other effectively XD

[(FORCE)]

Well said staticwarp !!!!  I have communicated that specific on teams in the past but sometimes (depending on the proximity of the enemy, one may not have time to be that specific in communications.  Actively observing the area where voice commands from your teammates are coming from is also a tremendous aid. 

[staticwarp]

Well said staticwarp !!!!  I have communicated that specific on teams in the past but sometimes (depending on the proximity of the enemy, one may not have time to be that specific in communications.  Actively observing the area where voice commands from your teammates are coming from is also a tremendous aid. 

 

excellent point! it's good to pay attention to those map markers in the chat.

[SunLight]

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sorry I couldn't resist

[MosesIsComingLookBusy]

No need to say sorry when it is a fact SunLight.

[Mortemex]

The problem is that players don't get to learn how to defend because there is always like 10 vs 10 on servers now a days.  The best way for someone to learn defense is to play in like a 4 vs 4.  But that would rarely happen due to the size of the servers