ET Server Suggestion What to do with Jay2...

[MoFo]

 

I imagine if one could look back at the previous 6 or 12 months, you'd basically still see the same trend on Jay2. The server has been dead for absurdly long time, yet it's left to sit and rot.

 

Meanwhile, there are players from Jay1 that take their time to join these forum in order to propose suggestions to improve their favorite server, only to realize in the end that they've wasted their time. Changes - outside of map adjustments - just don't seem to happen, whether players point out glaring balance or game play concerns, or simply suggest a minor tweak.

 

But this isn't a post about making any changes to Jay1. I feel that ship has sailed long ago. What I'm suggesting is that we make Jay2 a mirror of Jay1 to start, and then use it as a testing ground for some of the suggestions players post here(if there is an overall consensus). For example, I would propose that the players per team be capped at 12 or 16. While I do enjoy the chaos that a larger server brings, at a certain point it has diminishing returns and creates balancing(and latency) issues.

 

Let me know what you all think. Take another glance at the charts provided and ask "What do we have to lose?". I've included a poll as well.

 

On a side note: I thought it was quite funny that TrackBase increments their data of players by .5. Made the chorus from the STP song "Creep" pop into my head - "I'm half the man I used to be"

 

 

Edited October 24, 2025 by MoFo

[-=HipKat=-]

Lower the slots on Jay 1 and redirect to Jay 2 and let people get used to the slightly different settings

[MoFo]

1 hour ago, -=HipKat=- said:

Lower the slots on Jay 1 and redirect to Jay 2 and let people get used to the slightly different settings

 

It's pretty apparent that players overwhelmingly despise the Jay2 settings. Myself included. I would rather exit ET and do almost ANYTHING else other than play on Jay2. And looking at those charts, so would everyone else. Overflow happens pretty much on a daily basis during peak hours, yet players still want nothing to with that server.

 

Remember, this post isn't about making changes to Jay1. Even though having such a high player count causes some fairly obvious issues, I'm done screaming into the wind. Instead, I thought that players who would enjoy seeing some of their suggestions being implemented might find a better home. But one still owned/managed by all of you.

 

F|A has shown the willingness to host an alternative Jaymod server apart from Jay1, but for some reason won't recognize it's shortcomings. I honestly enjoy Jaymod the most, so I'd love to see an alternate server within the community that players actually want to make use of.

[-=HipKat=-]

7 hours ago, MoFo said:

 

It's pretty apparent that players overwhelmingly despise the Jay2 settings. Myself included. I would rather exit ET and do almost ANYTHING else other than play on Jay2. And looking at those charts, so would everyone else. Overflow happens pretty much on a daily basis during peak hours, yet players still want nothing to with that server.

 

Remember, this post isn't about making changes to Jay1. Even though having such a high player count causes some fairly obvious issues, I'm done screaming into the wind. Instead, I thought that players who would enjoy seeing some of their suggestions being implemented might find a better home. But one still owned/managed by all of you.

 

F|A has shown the willingness to host an alternative Jaymod server apart from Jay1, but for some reason won't recognize it's shortcomings. I honestly enjoy Jaymod the most, so I'd love to see an alternate server within the community that players actually want to make use of.

What is it about Jay 2 that you despise? Adren?? I give you throwing knives. Otherwise, the settings are very similar. Even the hitboxes seem better on Jay 2.

 

I played it exclusively for about 2 recent years. It was fine and fun and had a different map rotation, so it seemed fresh. Those two years were my favorite of all the years I've played here. I miss THAT group of familiar players so much! GRvW was even a better player there. Barnabas was an annoying character but still part of the server. Meathead was always there. Cap'n still plays there, mostly alone. (Sorry my agind memory is stopping me from listing too many more of those regulars) And believe me, you can look back. I started several threads pleading for ways to save Jay2 - with very little appreciation for it - and like you, I'm not even a member, although unlike you, no one wants me to be one.

With the same settings, Jay 2 was booming. The only change was less players, overall. People chose a server that's always full over one that was dwindling. As more people left the game, more people left Jay 2 to fill in the openings on Jay 1.

 

FA is willing to host as many servers as there are, as long as players continue to donate to cover the costs. Many of the FA servers are devoid of human players, and no one is discussing reviving them.

That tells me Jaymod is king and Silent is close behind, but doesn't need more than 1 main server.

 

But you specifically pointed out Jay 2. Even if Jay 2 was set up the exact same way, it wouldn't change anything. Players today want familiarity. That's why the same people are on every single day/night (depending on where you live). Every.Single.Day. Unless the slots get reduced on Jay 1 - which would immediately make it a better place to play for most people- I would be shocked to see anyone do anything other than play a map and check for openings on Jay 1 and then move over at the first chance back to it.

 

I LOVE the sentiment, but I'm very skeptical of anything changing. Maybe I'm wrong. One of the many things I've learned here is that people don't take me very seriously. 

Edited October 25, 2025 by -=HipKat=-

[HarryAimpotter]

13 hours ago, MoFo said:

It's pretty apparent that players overwhelmingly despise the Jay2 settings

I don't really understand what's so terrible about jay2. The only difference with jay1 is the adrenaline, everything else seems to be the same. I used to play regularly in silent1, beginners2, hardcore and NQ1 and I would play in jay2, if it had more players. Now I play mostly in jay1 because other servers are empty at the time when I want to play. All in all I don't find anything wrong with jay2 settings. It looks like you only like jay1 settings MoFo?

Edited October 25, 2025 by HarryAimpotter

[captnconcrete]

only real diff  between jay2 and jay1 is players. jay2 died off when more bawts where added . an the redirect had stopped working. myself i quit , adding my own input,when i was shot down at every turn even kicked out..... there has been absolutely no support from this community , to populate jay2 in almost 4 yrs.... before u guys  take away et for me ,cuz i dont like playing 30v30 with a bunch of lagging  players. only there for ratings. i will offer to pay for jay2 my self. real issue with jay2 is no one  supports it and it has way to many bawts.   jay1 an jay2  setting diff is adren.   you go back too 2019 till 2016 jay2 was pretty populated.  becuz  players supported jay2. what has changed sense then . no high admins  play there ever. the admins that did  are gone an no one replaced them. if u go into suggestions for jay2 an actually read thru it we had plenty a support back 5 yrs or so ago . but it fell on deaf ears.  also dont for get many other  of our beloved et servers are cherpin crickets also. if u go into actual players on jay2  for last 6 or so yrs  all of em play at jay1 now . every regular does. an why becuz there are players an not bawts an fa support from admins.  not becuz of dren.  i play there  an only there. I am opposite of jay1 fellas an gals i dont like gaming in et over 10 v10 et wasnt made for 30v30.   i would also like to say if u want jay2 too thrive u need to play there. simple as that u dont need to change anything just go there instead of jay1. i will end it  with this i could say more but i dont want to get  in trouble again.  i dont scream about anything i dont like about jay1. i just sit in jay2 by my self. playing et that i love.

 

i wont put a vote on your voting image. becuz u dont have the correct options  ..

Edited October 25, 2025 by captnconcrete

[-=HipKat=-]

3 minutes ago, captnconcrete said:

only real diff  between jay2 and jay1 is players. jay2 died off when more bawts where added . an the redirect had stopped working. myself i quit , adding my own input,when i was shot down at every turn even kicked out..... there has been absolutely no support from this community , to populate jay2 in almost 4 yrs.... before u guys  take away et for me ,cuz i dont like playing 30v30 with a bunch of lagging  players. only there for ratings. i will offer to pay for jay2 my self. real issue with jay2 is no one  supports it and it has way to many bawts.   jay1 an jay2  setting diff is adren.   you go back too 2019 till 2016 jay2 was pretty populated.  becuz  players supported jay2. what has changed sense then . no high admins  play there ever. the admins that did  are gone an no one replaced them. if u go into suggestions for jay2 an actually read thru it we had plenty a support back 5 yrs or so ago . but it fell on deaf ears.  also dont for get many other  of our beloved et servers are cherpin crickets also. if u go into actual players on jay2  for last 6 or so yrs  all of em play at jay1 now . every regular does. an why becuz there are players an not bawts an fa support from admins.  not becuz of dren.  i play there  an only there. I am opposite of jay1 fellas an gals i dont like gaming in et over 10 v10 et wasnt made for 30v30.   i would also like to say if u want jay2 too thrive u need to play there. simple as that u dont need to change anything just go there instead of jay1. i will end it  with this i could say more but i dont want to get  in trouble again.  i dont scream about anything i dont like about jay1. i just sit in jay2 by my self. playing et that i love.

Dude, seriously!!!

[COc0NuT]

Well, I'm not that long with you guys but för me it is simple. I dont like playing with bots. Saying that I dont like playing 27v27 cuz 90%of maps were not made för it. 

But playing on full jay1 is still way better than empty jay2. 

[MoFo]

6 hours ago, COc0NuT said:

I dont like playing with bots. Saying that I dont like playing 27v27 cuz 90%of maps were not made för it. 

 

Agreed, and I've made suggestions to address both of these issues. If bots are going to stay on Jay2, I believe they should be limited to an even lower count than you see on Jay1. Maybe when a team drops below 8 players. Just spitballing.

 

On 10/25/2025 at 1:12 PM, HarryAimpotter said:

It looks like you only like jay1 settings MoFo?

 

Not a fan of adrenaline. Players already have a tough enough time trying to kill high pinging flag runners like BW. Now just imagine if he had adrenaline as well.

 

Jay2 could just as easily have been the more populated one between the two Jaymod servers, but it seems to me that players generally prefer the server with no adrenaline.

[captnconcrete]

i will renege my previous comments here jay1 and jay2 are in fact way different. ive played on jay1 last month or so ... and there is in no way possible same settings on these two servers. i cant hit shit on jay1 after server fills up . panzer is diff hell all heavy are diff.

 

i have been looking thru jaymods settings .and there are few things can be set  that people say cant be set. like u can adjust hitboxes. 

 

and all the diff discussions we have had on this adrenaline seems to have nothing too do with the settings being diff on the two. 

 

r nades are  way more powerful  . panzer splash radius seems higher in jay1 then jay2 , mortars  my god the mortars on jay1 . wtf??? lol 

 

seems to me also  the top shots on jay1  have figured out connection settings . an adjusted to the hitboxes. id have to have both server cfg s to figure out the real diff . but i dont get it .. so far to me damage feels diff for many classes an hitboxes def seem diff to me.  i can hit fine on jay1 till  goes past 12v12 then all goes wonky. i cant explain with correct proof yet but im tryin to figure it out . messes with my mind alot lately.

 

 

 

Name g_hitmode — set active hitmode Synopsis g_hitmode [mode] Table 13.17. g_hitmode Modes MODE NAME BOXES SUMMARY 0 auto n/a automatically selects recommended mode 1 entity 1 body 2 etmain 3 head, torso, feet 3 basic 3 head, torso, feet 4 standard 3 head, torso, feet 5 advanced 9 head, larm, rarm, lhand, rhand, torso(2), lfoot and rfoot 6 oriented 10 head, larm, rarm, lhand, rhand, torso, lleg, rleg, lfoot and rfoot Default g_hitmode 0 Description g_hitmode sets the active hitmode which controls how bullet-hits are calculated and scored against player models. entity Mimics player's word-collision with only a large body box. This is only useful for reference purposes, or servers uninterested in accuracy.

Edited February 20 by captnconcrete

[bLade.]

I’m fully in support of making a real effort to repopulate Jay2. The game is over 20 years old, and while that longevity is a testament to how great it is, rotating through the same maps over and over can start to feel stale. Fresh scenery, new map pools, and a different overall experience could help restore some of that original magic and keep things feeling exciting.

 

One potential starting point could be hosting a dedicated event to build traction and generate interest. Creating something that gives players a reason to join and even bounce between Jay1 and Jay2, would help spark activity and reintroduce variety into the community.

[captnconcrete]

10 minutes ago, bLade. said:

I’m fully in support of making a real effort to repopulate Jay2. The game is over 20 years old, and while that longevity is a testament to how great it is, rotating through the same maps over and over can start to feel stale. Fresh scenery, new map pools, and a different overall experience could help restore some of that original magic and keep things feeling exciting.

 

One potential starting point could be hosting a dedicated event to build traction and generate interest. Creating something that gives players a reason to join and even bounce between Jay1 and Jay2, would help spark activity and reintroduce variety into the community.

i would love to help jay2 get a player base again i find jay2 way better than jay1. lets  try to get adren taking off server and see if the adren was all that held it back......  i agree hosting  events . we have done this previously and it was successful .  getting jay2 back on gametracker might help .   an jay1 is in  Virginia and jay2 is in new jersy so ping shouldnt be to much diff. 

[-=HipKat=-]

1 hour ago, captnconcrete said:

i would love to help jay2 get a player base again i find jay2 way better than jay1. lets  try to get adren taking off server and see if the adren was all that held it back......  i agree hosting  events . we have done this previously and it was successful .  getting jay2 back on gametracker might help .   an jay1 is in  Virginia and jay2 is in new jersy so ping shouldnt be to much diff. 

I'm with that too and agree with both posts. I hate when Jay 1 fills up because I just can't do anything, then when it's at a level of players, 15v15 at most, I play much better. Aim better, better KDA, etc

Anyone who's been here long enough and paid enough attention knows I am all for reviving Jay 2.

Hosting events has to be more than once every few months. Maybe weekly.