Blunt Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 I am looking at a new computer build, it's a low wattage Ryzen 7600, 65W CPU. So heat really isn't my issue, a $50 cpu fan should be fine. However, I was looking at water cooling. They make self contained kits that go to a top side fan array. Then I read they only typically last 5 years. Anybody know if these things are worth using, it looked easier than mounting a giant cpu fan that makes me worry about cracking my mobo when securing. Something like this Quote
Haruhi Suzumiya Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 You won't run into any issues with heat. I've never seen any heat problems with my 5600x using a stock cooler, even in the summer. I do be blasting the AC though so I don't stick to my desk or ruin my mouse pad any faster than I already do. I've run both scratch built water systems and one of those AIO loops before. The AIO eventually started leaking when one of the fittings cracked at the rad, but I don't remember how many years I had it before that happened. You don't have to worry about heat so just build what makes you happy... unless you're going to OC, that's when you need to start worrying about heat. 1 Quote
mraw435 Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 I'm a big fan of Linus Tech Tips on YouTube where he has covered water cooling at length and always recommends it. I see a 5 yr lifespan being relatively reasonable but the good thing is that the tubes that fail are replaceable. I personally have always gone air cooling - have a few noctua case fans (super quiet) and bought some budget cpu fan a while back (forgot what brand it was and away from my PC atm). Noctua is a superb brand tho so I'd trust their cpu fan too. Never had a fan damage a motherboard before! 2 1 Quote
boki Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 water cooling is an overkill for that CPU and that money is better invested elsewhere. an advice from a guy who has built thousands of computers in his life. 1 1 Quote
captnconcrete Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) i got a aio from aftermath . with my cpu . and i looked up lots on em . my self i decided to go with a hyper cool master 212 black edition . yes when i took it out the box i was like dam thats a massive heatsink . if ur going to be overclocking and using ur pc at its max . then yes it might help . if not it wont be a issue with just a good heatsink and fan cooler. mine has impressed me with how well it cools cpu stays between 27 29 c.. also they come with a bunch diff brackets to mount it to ur mobo . its ur pc u do it how u want. if u do go with a water cooler. educate ur self on proper mounting. ive seen so many people not mount them correctly. with the cpu cooler i bought for my cpu .. i can also add a sec fan to the heatsink if i need to i thought that was neat! with a water cooler u most likely will have more room in ur case. a big heatsink takes up alot of room and might give some trouble with closing ur case or mounting a massive video card. or block ram slots. heres a pic of my cpu cooler. Edited December 21, 2024 by captnconcrete 3 Quote
Gameplan Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) IMO, it depends. If your case is getting adequate air flow, and keeping the CPU temp at decent ranges under gaming load, then shelling out the bucks for water cooling may not be needed. Bear in mind the inside of the case is heating up via other peripherals, especially, the GPU. I wouldn't assume that a 65W chip is fine without checking airflow, case temp, fan speeds (assuming auto scaling), fan noise (if that's a concern for you), and all temps. Under prolonged extreme conditions, the CPU longevity and performance will suffer. If budget isn't an issue and you like the cool lighting, get the water cooler with LED lights. My last two builds have been with water cooling and even playing intense games on the highest settings, my 14700K stays under 50 for the most part. Yes, it can handle twice that, but my experience has been performance declines when temps rise. I can't really speak to the 5 year thing because I do a new build every 3-4 and my last two coolers were fine. Edited December 21, 2024 by Gameplan 2 1 Quote
TulsaGeoff Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) Have an Arctic 420 AIO. Previous one was a NZXT and still going in my previous case which was over 7 years ago. I never had a water cooler leak (knock on desk) and been doing water since 06 or so. They are just so inexpensive compared to custom loops that it makes it hard to justify anything else. I'd recommend the Arctic ones for price/performance and they don't require that bloated NZXT software. When it dies, most likely scenario is that the pump stops working and your temps go up then you go again Edited December 21, 2024 by TulsaGeoff 3 1 Quote
Platinum VIP Aft3rmath Posted December 27, 2024 Platinum VIP Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) My 7900X CPU definitely appreciates the AIO cooler I've got on it, but its definitely a case by case basis based on CPU load, how quiet you'd like the system to be, and case compatibility/space. I've always run AIO coolers and have had no problems with any of them. The one I sent @captnconcrete was an antique by all definitions and still worked without issue lol. Edited December 27, 2024 by Aft3rmath added case 1 Quote
Blunt Posted December 27, 2024 Author Posted December 27, 2024 Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate everyone chiming in as it gave me a lot to think about. I have decided to go AIO water cooling even though I don't need it. It comes down to a couple of reasons, my new case is a fish tank, glass on 2 sides. I don't think a cpu fan looks good in this type of case due to how large they are. I also like seeing the MOBO and not worrying about clearance issues. Then the economics, I still need to buy the top case 360mm fan array (I know I don't need it yet). I picked up a Thermal Right AIO for $65. A CPU fan alone is is $30+ and a topside fan assembly is $30+ on the cheap side. This is a slow build for me, I am still awaiting Nvidia RTX 5000 series GPUs to be released. The 65W CPU is a stop gap, I will be upgrading that CPU. My goal for now is to get DDR5 memory, PCI 5.0 slot & several fast NVMe drives that plug directly into the mobo. My final goal will be to run some AI engines locally on the new build and of course play some ET 1 Quote
mraw435 Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 that sounds like an awesome build in your near future! asthetically, AIO water cooling is definitely the way to go - especially with a two sided glass case (im expecting pictures filled with RGB once complete!!) for AI engines, look up ollama -- i played with it a bit locally, is super cool (a tad slow given the hardware im using with it) 1 Quote
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