i will have to disagree, and i am very strong on my point. there are certain people who are spec for 3 or 4 maps in a row or more. this should be concerning to the clan, seeing that Enemy Territory servers are dying, (minus ours). hardcore is one of the best FF servers out there, and new people who find themselves trying to connect may just give up after a few seconds due to the duration of wait, and possibly could be a lost gamer. think of it like a business, do you want your new customers leaving the store without buying anything?? once a newbie plays here, they will probably love it and come back, if someone is trying to connect for 30 minutes, they may not. every clan ive been in kicked specs after 5-10 minutes when server full, and this makes total sense unless they are recording demo. this is a gaming server not a server to just watch people while you stuff your face or go wash your balls....,