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Well THAT all depends on Your PSU ( Power Supply ) ... what do you have ?

 

 
 

 

Don't be an nVidia Fan boy :censored  ... the AMD cards are great for the $$, that R9 290 for $245 is hard to beat for the $ ... but Butters, yeah the nVidia GTX 970 cards are great too, although I know someone (CruelKind) that has nothing but problems with his eVGA GTX970, has had to RMA it and STILL Can't play COD4 with it for whatever reason. So again ... no one should be a fan boy of nVidia OR AMD ... they both make GOOD cards and sometimes crap cards.  :cheers

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EVGA has heatsink "nowadays we call it a feature" which doesn´t fit with GPU. Also to bring out some GTX 970 related issues:

coil whine

and VRAM usages- as most of the games(I´d say 95% todays games) won´t use in FHD more than 3.5GB of VRAM anyways its minor "bug"

Coil whine could be really annoying, if there is out there later revisions, I´d check out those. Not sure if manufacturers like MSI, Gigabyte etc actually solved the "coil whine" issue but they mentioned they´d deal with it.

 

Also reference r9 290, which I assume can be bought with 245$, is also not better, 95C and 50dB :P Only Tri-x or Windforce would be acceptable choises.

 

OC GTX 970 draw also 250W+ so a 400W PSU wouldn´t do, GTX 970 on reference clocks draws much less power. Also 600W PSU has so wide meaning- from Codegen 600W which I wouldn´t use for more than 200W PC to 600W Platinum sert. PSU-s which tolerate even more beating than specified, for short terms ofc.

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Ok the new puter is coming today.  It has a 128 SSd and 1 T hhd.  Should I install ET a fresh downlaod and copy?  Or should I use my backup on a flash drive and just drop it on the SSD?  It has windows 8.1 never used it before. Never had 2 drives either.  So I'm asuming that I should downlaod new ET and put it on the ssd? and just add my saved key?  Sorry I sound stupid here I'm old new thing piss me off LOL.  Also I want a bluray drive.  IT allready comes with a dvd/rewrite ETC.........If I buy and new one for around 80 bucks with blu=ray and dvd/rewrite and the good stuff I don't need both drives right?  I get the new one take out the old one and just plug in the new blue ray or should I use both drives.  The new one will have better writing speeds 48x etc........  Thanks for the help guys I really appreiate it.    Btw I think I might splurge and get the Gtx980 for 250 more get the best for me?  LOL

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Copy your et folder to your flash drive and then paste it to your new computer, it is much faster than downloading online.

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GTX 980 = IF you are willing to spend THAT Kind of money  it's almost the best single graphics card out right now, the only thing that will destroy it is this bad boy @ about $600 these days ...

 

001.png   = AMD R9 295x2 8GB = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150710 =  $ 600   :thumbsup 

 

nVidia can't touch the performance of that card unless it's for a TITAN Z that will cost you almost $1,600  :lol  suck it nVidia fan boyz !

 

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Blu-Ray Players / Burners ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135252@ $60 ... sounds GREAT right ? Until you find out you need the BLU RAY SOFTWARE TOO ! they don't tell you this :mad

 

You'll end up having to ALSO buy something like THIS ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832117069@ $ 80 ... JUST so you can WATCH a BluRay disc on your computer WITH a Blu Ray player.

 

So unless you are going to use your computer as a HTPC or it's your ONLY Blu Ray device, you Might want to rethink that ?

 

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PSU @ 600 Watts ... SHOULD be enough, but like Vanaraud is saying, efficiency ( ie - 80+Gold or better rated ) is MORE important than PEAK Wattage ... some PSU's can put out 600 watts, but not continuously at an efficient draw and thus can sometimes NOT be powerful enough ... Power supplies is an area many people try to save a buck and SHOULDN'T because it's like the Engine behind your computer system ... would you Buy a Big Truck to Tow a Trailer or Boat, and expect a little 4 cylinder engine to get the job done ? NO!  ... you've get to read the fine print and spec's to be sure it can handle the job.

 

Most likely IF it's a PSU from a reputable brand company that make quality PSU's ( Corsair, eVGA, Coolermaster, Thermaltake, Seasonic, etc. ) you should be fine. IF it's some funky brand tell us the Make and model and we can research it.

 

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LASTLY ... GAMES don't need to be on your SSD drive, in fact since it's only a 128 GB SSD drive I wouldn't put games on it, use it as your BOOT / OS drive ( Windows on it ONLY ) and use your 1 TB HDD for all other software, games and data storage.

 

You WANT your operating system and boot to be on the SSD as they will greatly speed up your boot or load time, example from the time you push the power ON button til the time your at the Windows screen will go from maybe about minute on a HDD to only about 3-5 seconds using a SSD drive. Games and maps and such will LOAD faster IF it's on a SSD, but you will see no "in game" performance increase if it's on a SSD, and at only 128 GB, you'll run out of room before you know it, trust me. IF you want your Games on a SSD, Buy another one down the line, they are getting cheaper all the time, and will make more sense to use them for almost everything but huge amounts of data storage before long.

 

Also have ONE SSD drive with only WINDOWS ( Boot/OS ) on it ... makes it much easier, faster, and safer to wipe and load a fresh copy should you develop computer issues or crashes down the road, in fact I'd almost consider having a 2nd SSD duplicate as a backup, something goes wrong just swap out drives and your back up and running again, easy peasy lemon squeezy.

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I have the EVGA 970 superclocked edition , I am extremely happy with the card but i would wait until they fix all the bugs with the ram location. IF you end up getting a 970, Buy EVGA , try to use the 2 6pin's , the molex adapters are hard to bend, if you have a cpu fan they might interfere with it .  :P

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I'm in the market for a video card myself. Although I was originally going for an NVidia, that's no longer happening. It's not the .5gb of memory issue, or even based on my past (poor) experiences with NVidia cards, but their planned obsolesce.

They're limiting quite a few of their modern cards on OpenGL 4.1 or 4.2. Their more "top of the line" cards have support for OpenGL 4.4.4/4.5. AMD on the other hand, has support for OpenGL 4.4.4 through forward context on my old card, which is coming on 4 years old.

With Nvidia you're getting crippled hardware, with AMD you're getting crippled drivers. At least they can recode the drivers (The Omega version of AMD Catalyst is great, btw). What are you going to do with the video card- reflow it with new chips?

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I'm in the market for a video card myself. Although I was originally going for an NVidia, that's no longer happening. It's not the .5gb of memory issue, or even based on my past (poor) experiences with NVidia cards, but their planned obsolesce.

 

They're limiting quite a few of their modern cards on OpenGL 4.1 or 4.2. Their more "top of the line" cards have support for OpenGL 4.4.4/4.5. AMD on the other hand, has support for OpenGL 4.4.4 through forward context on my old card, which is coming on 4 years old.

 

With Nvidia you're getting crippled hardware, with AMD you're getting crippled drivers. At least they can recode the drivers (The Omega version of AMD Catalyst is great, btw). What are you going to do with the video card- reflow it with new chips?

 

 

NVidia has only one chip (the 970 ) that is "crippled" if you could say that. I mean it might be a problem if your playing battlefield set at ultra running 4k witch uses a peak of 3.6 gigs or crisis 3 on ultra running 1330p extended  witch uses 3.7. So i really dont think its a problem.

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Well True ... I play BF4 ... AND Crysis3 ... and I got NO PROBLEMS ... running my AMD Sapphire RADEON R9 290X card of course  B) cuz @ AMD 4 GB MEANS 4 GB  ;)

 

 

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I  like AMD ! Play battlefield at 1080p ultra settings at 110 steady with max textures and x2 anti aliasing

My dream system would have the dual R9 295 liquid cooled card B)

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I  like AMD !  My dream system would have the dual R9 295 liquid cooled card  B)

 

 

WELL it's ONLY $600 right now on Newegg, so there ya go, now all you need is    :dollar:  ... but with the R9 390X is due out soon as well, will ALSO be water cooled w/ a better AIO similar to the R9 295x2, and is supposedly about a 50% performance increase over the R9 290x so I'm waiting to see what the details and $$ will be on that card myself.

 

001.png   = AMD R9 295x2 8GB = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150710 =  $ 600   :thumbsup 

 

nVidia can't touch the performance of that card unless it's for a TITAN Z that will cost you almost $1,600  :lol  suck it nVidia fan boyz !

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r9 295x is a great card but you´d have to have a VERY good quality PSU, as its frying out 1kW Gold\Platinum PSU-s also.

"Then again, we can also remember situations when a single AMD Radeon R9 295X2 managed to shut down a PSU (PCGH, 1200W Enermax Platimax), or even destroy it outright (Tom's Hardware, Corsair AX860i). In these cases, the power supplies should have had more than enough capacity to handle the hardware."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-r9-295x2-1000w-psu,3907.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-review-benchmark-performance,3799-16.html

 

But I think Evil already got his GTX 970 which is a good choise,  GTX 980 as r9 290X the X version would have been also waste of money in my eyes. As with OC GTX 970 under 4k you´d miss the difference in performance. Would defenetly notice the 250$ hole in wallet;)

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_980_G1_Gaming/gtx 980 vs r9 295x2 for about same money

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6968/zotac-geforce-gtx-970-amp-extreme-edition-video-card-review/index7.htmlgtx980 reference vs OC gtx970 @ 1355MHz Boost setup, some getting on different GTX 970 even 1500MHz stable, so OC GTX 970 performes as good as GTX 980 reference with less money.

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VERY interesting  :geek:  looks like DirectX 12 ( or Windows 10 if you will ) will be GREAT for AMD Radeon Cards   :cheers

 

Tested: DirectX 12's potential performance leap is insane

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900814/tested-directx-12s-potential-performance-leap-is-insane.html

 

AMD R9 290X {$300} As Fast As Titan X {$1000+} in DX12 Enabled 3DMark – 33% FASTER Than GTX 980 {$550}

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-290x-fast-titan-dx12-enabled-3dmark-33-faster-gtx-980/#ixzz3VjFq7lCR 

 

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37382-amd-shows-directx-12-performance-in-3dmark-benchmark

 

 

 

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