sincity Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 AMD changed the world with its first Ryzen processors and impressed us even more with its sophomore release of CPUs, but we expect Ryzen 3rd Generation will truly blow Intel out of the water. With Ryzen 3rd Generation, we expect AMD will introduce its first 7nm mainstream processors. If Team Red manages to pull this off, it will have created the first 7nm architectures to come to PCs. Considering Intel’s well-documented struggles to introduce 10nm Cannon Lake chips, AMD could swoop in and upstage its rival completely even before it gets a chance to launch Sunny Cove, while also introducing some of the most impressive CPUs ever created. Cut to the chase What is it? AMD’s next line of mainstream processors When is it out? Likely March to August 2019 What will it cost? TBD AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation release date Although there’s haven’t been any rumors or hard evidence to help us predict when Ryzen 3rd Generation processors will release we can make an educated guess based on previous launches. The first generation of Ryzen processors hit the market in March 2017 and Ryzen 2nd Generation arrived a month later in 2018. With that in mind, it seems almost certain that Ryzen 3rd Generation processors will release in sometime in Spring (or within the months of March-August for those on the other side of the hemisphere). More immediately, we fully expect AMD will introduce its Ryzen 3rd Generation family at CES 2019, where the company has promised to talk about 7nm processors and graphics cards. AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation price Once again we don’t have any empirical proof to list the price of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 3rd Generation processors. However, thanks to a curiously detailed report from a YouTuber named AdoredTV, we have model names and prices for nearly every possible Ryzen 3rd Generation processor. Here’s how much Ryzen 3rd Generation processors may cost: Ryzen 9 3850X: $499 (about £400, AU$700) Ryzen 9 3800X: $449 (about £350, AU$600) Ryzen 7 3700X: $329 (about £260, AU$450) Ryzen 7 3700: $299 (about £230, AU$400) Ryzen 5 3600X: $229 (about £180, AU$320) Ryzen 5 3600G: $199 (about £160, AU$270) Ryzen 5 3600: $178 (about £140, AU$240) Ryzen 3 3300X: $129 (about £100, AU$180) Ryzen 3 3300G: $129 (about £100, AU$180) Ryzen 3 3300: $99 (about £80, AU$140) Although, this list of prices seems compelling and on track with the prices of AMD’s current lineup of Ryzen 2nd Generation processors, we would buy into them until Team Red officially announces prices. Now what’s interesting here is AMD has a track record of lowering the prices of its processors going from Ryzen to Ryzen 2nd Generation. The AMD Ryzen 7 1700X originally launched with a $399 (£389, AU$569) price and it was succeeded by the more affordable $329 (£349, AU$515) AMD Ryzen 7 2700X. With that in mind, we couldn’t imagine/would be disappointed if the Ryzen 7 3700X were to cost more. For now, it seems AMD will hold onto the same pricing scheme from its current slew of chips going into the next generation. AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation specs Here’s where things get exciting. Whereas Ryzen 2nd Generation processors were built on a 12nm Zen+ architecture that introduced a slight die shrink from the original 14nm Zen architecture, Ryzen 3rd Generation is said to be built upon a much smaller 7nm Zen 2 platform. As with most die shrinks, this refinement in process should lead to increases in speed and power efficiency. However, what is interesting is there are many rumors pointing to Ryzen 3rd Generation CPUs that will feature dramatic increases in core counts. Thanks to a multitude of leaks we pretty much can fully outline what Ryzen 3rd Generation processors there will be and they are as follows: Ryzen 9 3850X: 16-cores, 32-threads, clocked at 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz Ryzen 9 3800X: 16-cores, 32-threads, clocked at 3.9GHz to 4.7GHz Ryzen 7 3700X: 12-cores, 24-threads, clocked at 4.2GHz to 5.0GHz Ryzen 7 3700: 12-cores, 24-threads, clocked at 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz Ryzen 5 3600X: 8-cores, 16-threads, clocked at 4.0GHz to 4.8GHz Ryzen 5 3600G: 8-cores, 16-threads, 12 GPU cores, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz Ryzen 5 3600: 8-cores, 16-threads, clocked at 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz Ryzen 3 3300X: 6-cores,12 -threads, clocked at 3.5GHz to 4.3GHz Ryzen 3 3300G: 8-core, 12-thread, 12 GPU cores, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz Ryzen 3 3300: 6-cores, 12-threads, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz We heard the first murmurs of what Zen 2 processors could do as early as October 2018. In the report suggested that AMD Radeon Technologies Group received its first engineering sample for the unreleased architecture in the form of an 8-core chip capable of reaching frequencies up to 4.5GHz. In December 2018, the rumors began to really head up as we received an almost complete breakdown of this new series of CPUs. This nearly complete set of listings came from a YouTuber named AdoredTV and while they seemed unlikely to be true, a Russian retailer would later back up the Influencer’s report with nearly identical specs on all its product pages for the whole series of chips. We’re not sure if the Russian retailer was just cribbing AdoredTV’s video like a cheat sheet, but so far no other rumors or reports have contradicted what we know so far. This is also all we know so far, but we’re certain that AMD will officially announce Ryzen 3rd Generation processors and a whole lot more at CES 2019. 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Xernicus Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 I don't really buy these numbers... like a 16 core CPU running at 4.7-5GHz at stock speeds just seems ridiculous. Too power hungry, too hot, and they'd be shooting Threadripper in the foot with those core counts. I mean that was the whole thing with the i9 series-- to compete with Threadripper. Why on earth would AMD need two SKUs? In addition, I don't think really the process is mature enough for 5GHz. 4.5-4.7 sounds a little more reasonable... but ehh. And a 6-core R3? That just doesn't seem to fit the market. Maybe they'd be trying to bring back Athlon? I dunno. This is reminding me of the P4 and FX days when "zomg 3GHz, 4GHz, more GHz, more better!" was the thing. IMO stick to low power draw, higher IPC. I guess we'll see on Wednesday. Quote
Vanaraud Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 If AMD can produce 6 cores on the r3 price range then why not? It´s not everybody has to pull nvidia\Intel by giving out 5% better prducts for 100$+ increase in price. Maybe not running all cores@ 5Ghz but even 2-3 cores boosting 5Ghz would help a lot. And as AdoredTV explained, with little chiplets they have a way better yield to cherrypick those few which does. Epyc will have 32 cores, so no prob to squeeze TR in between with 18-24 cores. Quote
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