Just to point out one other thing... Death you brought up the Social Security Administration as having purchased 174,000 rounds of ammunition.
While that is true, the rounds were purchased for their investigators who have full police powers and need to be armed when they walk into the houses of those individuals committing fraud against the system.
The conspiracy theorists love to say it is due to arming themselves against civil unrest, it's simply not true
When you take the 174,000 rounds and divide it by the 66 or so agents that is around 2,600 rounds per investigator. Given how much time they spend on qualifications and range time to practice, that probably leaves each officer with around 500 rounds available for "duty" (for the year). That's if they only do the minimum required range & qualification time...
Just felt it was necessary to point that out because I hate conspiracy theories and how they become tools in an argument about a real subject.
When it comes to the point of this topic I say "screw 'em, they want out then let 'em out"
I live in one of the most liberal states in the country so take that as you will. Anyone who thinks Romney gave a sh** about anyone who makes under $100,000 needs to get their head checked. I am not saying Obama is without flaws, it just always comes down to the lesser of two evils... We need strong education, and the rich can certainly afford to give back to the nation that allowed them to gain that wealth. Romney did not have a footing on either of those issues.
Now it all comes into wasteful spending and all that other jazz to clean up the debt but it should be a multi-pronged effort.
I worked in public accounting and if you could even see all the tax breaks that our rich counterparts are allowed to take it would make you sick to your stomach.
I like Dare's method anyways. There were some members that wanted to secede a while back, he banned them all