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so if i told everyone else this, would they would say the same?.

 

its your interpritation of what you know of in that war, i can only guess but i know for a fact jet planes did come from the nazi's, if i remember right the factory was built in a solid mountain in austria somewhere. when the war was about over, many german scientists were taken by the americans to create this tech for thier side.

 

i wouldnt be surprised the first manned shuttle into space about 40 years ago was also designed by a brilliant german(s) scientist, who then went on to teach in american universities even to today.

 

now i was guessing about that stuff in the last post and the last sentence but we were never on the field in 1930-40's, and we can read up as much history about both sides because the countries that were involved in the fight have their own versions of history they have written and there are soo many conflicting points. so how can i get my fact straight when we were all taught different stuff about happened that many years ago and cant make up our minds?

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so if i told everyone else this, would they would say the same?.

 

its your interpritation of what you know of in that war, i can only guess but i know for a fact jet planes did come from the nazi's, if i remember right the factory was built in a solid mountain in austria somewhere. when the war was about over, many german scientists were taken by the americans to create this tech for thier side.

 

i wouldnt be surprised the first manned shuttle into space about 40 years ago was also designed by a brilliant german(s) scientist, who then went on to teach in american universities even to today.

 

now i was guessing about that stuff in the last post and the last sentence but we were never on the field in 1930-40's, and we can read up as much history about both sides because the countries that were involved in the fight have their own versions of history they have written and there are soo many conflicting points. so how can i get my fact straight when we were all taught different stuff about happened that many years ago and cant make up our minds?

NAZI wtf GERMAN SCIENTISTS :mad

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you should never forget what the nazis did, and what they created. overall the nazis were considered the worst thing that has happened on the planet but lets not forget the invetions this party has come up with, even by today which is derived from nazi tech. jet fighters for one, advanced medical understanding for another at the expense of many innocent peoples lives, big motorways and i mean the list goes on..

Learn ur history they were not the worst history is written by the winners of wars. Russia killed like 16 million jews and Germany killed 6 million 100,000 of them went to experiments that helped the americans learn about affects of like how cold it is in airplanes and if it is survivable at altitudes. Dont foreget us americans killed jews also in ww2. Get ur facts staight not all german soldiers are nazis they were fighting for there country. we do this to in the american army too. :mad

 

 

 

 

Statistics on the Holocaust

 

It is estimated that 2 million were killed by the Einsatzgruppen,* 3.3 million in the gas chambers,** and about 500,000 died in the ghettos of Eastern Europe of hunger, disease, and exhaustion, and as victims of random terror and reprisals. See Lucy S. Davidowicz, The Holocaust and the Historian (1981), pp. 12-13.

 

*Einsatzgruppen, special duty troops of the SS’s security service and security police, were assigned to each of the German armies invading the Soviet Union. They rounded up the Jews and killed them. The Jews were loaded on trucks or marched to remote areas. They were machine gunned into natural ravines, antitank trenches or the mass graves they were ordered to dig.

 

**Later, starting in 1942, the Nazis contructed six installations with large scale gassing facilities and with crematoria for the disposal of bodies. They were Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor, and Treblinka. All were located in Poland. Gilbert notes that 1,500,000 Jews were murdered at Auschwitz; 360,000 at Chelmno; 250,000 at Sobibor; 600,000 at Belzec; and 840,000 at Treblinka. See Martin Gilbert, The Holocaust (1985), p. 257, n. 6.

 

Jewish Victims of the Holocaust[1]

 

---Germany’s Jews in Modern Times[2]

 

Year 1871 -- 1880 -- 1890 -- 1900 -- 1910 -- 1925 -- 1933 -- 1939 -- 1941 -- 1969

 

512,158 562,612 567,884 586,833 615,021 564,379 503,000 234,000 164,000 30,000

 

 

 

Total World Jewish Population 16,648,000 in 1939 ... Total World Jewish Population 13,276,300 in 1989

 

 

And I do agree with you...not all germans were Nazi's. Nazi's were the ruling party at the time. Nazi's represented germany to the world stage. Such as Democrats currently represent America at this time. Nazi is an idealogy. I'm saying to remember what 'the' Nazis did...but also what they stood for. For if we do not know our history...we are doomed to repeat it.

 

---I think when 5N34KYK1LL wrote 'overall the nazis were considered the worst thing that has happened on the planet'...he also said 'overall'. Key word there. He didn't say they were the worst...but even so if he 'feels' that they are the worst...then good for him.

 

---Yes alot of technology was derived from German scientists. Russia and America grabbed the majority of them. Yes it was those scientists that helped both countries get into space. Their V-2 rockets they were lobbing onto Britain are considered the forerunner of modern day Scud Missles. And yes they did teach. Technologically...Germany was the most superior country in the world.

 

---One last thing...The Holocaust refers to the effort by the National Socialist (Nazi) Government of Germany between 1933 and 1945 to exterminate the Jewish people.

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you should never forget what the nazis did, and what they created. overall the nazis were considered the worst thing that has happened on the planet but lets not forget the invetions this party has come up with, even by today which is derived from nazi tech. jet fighters for one, advanced medical understanding for another at the expense of many innocent peoples lives, big motorways and i mean the list goes on..

Learn ur history they were not the worst history is written by the winners of wars. Russia killed like 16 million jews and Germany killed 6 million 100,000 of them went to experiments that helped the americans learn about affects of like how cold it is in airplanes and if it is survivable at altitudes. Dont foreget us americans killed jews also in ww2. Get ur facts staight not all german soldiers are nazis they were fighting for there country. we do this to in the american army too. :mad

 

 

 

 

Statistics on the Holocaust

 

It is estimated that 2 million were killed by the Einsatzgruppen,* 3.3 million in the gas chambers,** and about 500,000 died in the ghettos of Eastern Europe of hunger, disease, and exhaustion, and as victims of random terror and reprisals. See Lucy S. Davidowicz, The Holocaust and the Historian (1981), pp. 12-13.

 

*Einsatzgruppen, special duty troops of the SS’s security service and security police, were assigned to each of the German armies invading the Soviet Union. They rounded up the Jews and killed them. The Jews were loaded on trucks or marched to remote areas. They were machine gunned into natural ravines, antitank trenches or the mass graves they were ordered to dig.

 

**Later, starting in 1942, the Nazis contructed six installations with large scale gassing facilities and with crematoria for the disposal of bodies. They were Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor, and Treblinka. All were located in Poland. Gilbert notes that 1,500,000 Jews were murdered at Auschwitz; 360,000 at Chelmno; 250,000 at Sobibor; 600,000 at Belzec; and 840,000 at Treblinka. See Martin Gilbert, The Holocaust (1985), p. 257, n. 6.

 

Jewish Victims of the Holocaust[1]

 

---Germany’s Jews in Modern Times[2]

 

Year 1871 -- 1880 -- 1890 -- 1900 -- 1910 -- 1925 -- 1933 -- 1939 -- 1941 -- 1969

 

512,158 562,612 567,884 586,833 615,021 564,379 503,000 234,000 164,000 30,000

 

 

 

Total World Jewish Population 16,648,000 in 1939 ... Total World Jewish Population 13,276,300 in 1989

 

 

And I do agree with you...not all germans were Nazi's. Nazi's were the ruling party at the time. Nazi's represented germany to the world stage. Such as Democrats currently represent America at this time. Nazi is an idealogy. I'm saying to remember what 'the' Nazis did...but also what they stood for. For if we do not know our history...we are doomed to repeat it.

 

---I think when 5N34KYK1LL wrote 'overall the nazis were considered the worst thing that has happened on the planet'...he also said 'overall'. Key word there. He didn't say they were the worst...but even so if he 'feels' that they are the worst...then good for him.

 

---Yes alot of technology was derived from German scientists. Russia and America grabbed the majority of them. Yes it was those scientists that helped both countries get into space. Their V-2 rockets they were lobbing onto Britain are considered the forerunner of modern day Scud Missles. And yes they did teach. Technologically...Germany was the most superior country in the world.

 

---One last thing...The Holocaust refers to the effort by the National Socialist (Nazi) Government of Germany between 1933 and 1945 to exterminate the Jewish people.

I went on vacation to germany i have family over there we visited the "DEATH CAMPS" there is no gas chambers i have older friends that were in the HITLER YOUTH there is no gas chambers and if u have proof of one it is fake. Most died they were starved to death shot or hung or died from disease and were feed to much by americans and ate them selves to death atlest one million died that way. If any thing Russia killed more!!!! F@#K T@#D :lol:
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