Just Curious

[daredevil]

 You are showing the prices of cloud. Real server prices are much higher:

 

https://www.leaseweb.com/bare-metal-server/single-processor

 

Ever given a thought why most good GSP run gameservers on dedicated servers and never on a cloud? There is difference when it comes to running on cloud/shared resources vs dedicated. You will still have downtime if the nodes need to hot migrate. Also there is no guarantee on IO resources in cloud/share hosting and that has been proven in hosting industry since ages. 

 

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/jay1.clan-fa.com:27960/

 

Has been running on rank #1 since last 6 years. Never dropped to 2nd. Why? Runs smooth on descent spec server. Never a long down time and good latency. I can run bunch of servers from my home to save money but then what? To save money kill the server in future? Sorry, no thanks. 

 

No we are not super good in fund raising because I don't like to see same people putting donations all the time. So every time I try such that "different" people cheap in. 1200$/month goal and achieved in a month. We have a goal of 4800$/year.

 

Ex: http://www.adkgamers.com/donate/goal-43-march-server-payments/ 

 

Sure I can run servers for cheap but quality of servers would remain same. Downtime, Lag, crashes, etc.

 

If what you are saying is true and since we might not know something because we are super good in raising small funds which is nothing compare to many clans outside in the world and if cloud can handle all the games then please show me at least 5 servers in top 20 running on cloud. Here are the IP's:

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/cod4/

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/et/

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/tf2/

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/left4dead2/

 

http://www.gametracker.com/search/dayz/

 

Don't get me wrong, I am just trying to understand. I can even come and claim that hey you can run gameservers on VPS but the person who has run it and works in IT industry knows they can't be run successfully over the span of years because every single server provider out there in cloud/shared hosting is there to make money. 

 

The reason we only pay 5000$ for all this servers in ET, COD4, Minecraft, CSGO, Left4Dead2, Minecraft, TF2, etc is because I have got one of the cheapest deals in best quality. We host servers at NJ, Chicago, Germany and NL locations. Forums itself cost us 270$/year which doesn't include one time initial cost. We don't use "free" forums. IPB is paid commercial forum.  To minimize the cost we can migrate back to phpBB3 but no thanks. 

 

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We sure appreciate the help and if you like to help we require help in advertising our forums on other generic forums and spreading the word about our TF2, Minecraft and other COD4 servers. If you are interested in it let me know and I will tell you how to do it. 

[ClamSlammer]

daredevil, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to call you out, or say you're getting a bad deal.
I'm just saying with a little work and know how, the costs could be brought down.
I promise I've got better things to do than to come to your site to flame you.

I'm just saying I'd love to help if it's something you guys are looking at.

[daredevil]

daredevil, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to call you out, or say you're getting a bad deal.

 

Never thought of that and don't worry for it. Even if you call me out I will be fine. Over the period this clan has made me learn to be patient and each time someone puts my patient to test, I feel here is another challenge. More or less you aren't testing my patience as of yet.

 

On the side note I am all here to save money because at the end of the day if donation goal is not reached it all goes from our pocket and that has happened many times in past.

 

Back the point:

 

The screenshot which you posted of dedicated server is of 220$ for one machine. Well we run 3-4 machines: 

 

1. NJ, USA - Windows 

2. Germany - Windows

3. Germany - Linux for Website hosting and other things. (This one is shared with my friend)

4. NL machine - For redirect. 

 

Now if I end up purchasing at your pirce i.e. 220$/month then it would be 880$/month just for 4 machines and it wouldn't cover servers hosted in Chicago, NY, etc. or website bills, etc. More or less our cheapest redirect server i.e. NL machine has 4GB RAM and all others server as 16 to 32GB RAM. All our servers are on 1Gbps port. 

 

So with your suggestion I would be paying a lot more and getting way less. I will respectfully pass on that. 

[Thundercats]

Quick math puts that over $12000 per year. Umm I think we are good the way we are

[ClamSlammer]

I was unaware of the current specs your servers are running.

Realize then that your specs may be a bit overkill for just running a couple game servers.

That's why I was thinking more along the lines of consolidating servers to a box or 2.

 

There's no getting around the fact that more locations you want = more boxes though. No doubt there.

I assume you want to keep these servers in NL, in Ger, and I would hope in the US too.

 

Just a thought, thats why the title of the post was just curious

 

Also linux servers are typically less expensive than windows servers.

I would think that ET would be able to be hosted on a linux box at this point, but I'm not sure.

I just know that cod4 can be, along with bot's and whatever other plugins come with those.

 

I'm not trying to test your patience either Daredevil.

I just know that I've been in that position (where the difference comes out of my pocket personally) and it's not a fun one to be in.

So I'm just trying to help, after all I did apply to be in F|A

 

While we're on the topic of server administration though.... Does dediservers offer any sort of DDoS protection?

Edited November 1, 2014 by ClamSlammer