autoshuffle and autoput in jay3 ( beginners 1 )

[DFighter]

hmm, you mean that they couldn't move because /team was blocked?

 

In general all automatic things are 'bad' because maybe a player got a lot of kills in a map (camping, etc.) but he/she is not able to get those kills again in a different situation and map. It's impossible to get skill from stats, even trackbase/sl fail at this.

agree therefor I feel autoshuffle only should be doing when its really really needed and no admins are in server

but generally when admins are not in server then its really really needed.

that's why I would prefer strickt high terms for autoshuffle  ( high ration of kill diffirence or xp diffirence whatever is possible )

because it only will do real good when admins are not around and teams are really messed up.

cause I feel admins / players are still better capable in seeing if teams need to be corrected yes or no, not that we are always right but that aside

 

 

[DFighter]

Hello Sunlight,

After reviewing this matter now for several weeks, I still would like to ask you to change the settings.
Teams still get way to often shuffled people get annoyed by it and stack teams a lot, and also half the server going to spec every time at the end of a map.
Then even when the score is unbalanced sometimes with kill / death ratio teams were still equal yet it get's shuffled.
For example axis scored higher in kill death yet allied team won the map and still teams got shuffled.
Also probably 2 or 3 out of 10 shuffles are very bad shuffles, that unbalance the teams more then before the shuffle.
Therefor I want to suggest to change the setting from 30% now ? to around 45 a 50 % score diffirence.
Then the teams only get shuffled when it is really really needed and no admins are around or willing players.
I don't want to be the whiner here but I think more admins see this issue, and I hope they can confirm that, or not if they don't agree with me ofcourse
 

[SunLight]

I'll see what can be done. Auto shuffle could even be disabled when there are admins online who have that command...

 

But when you say it shuffles for k/d (and another team won the map) that's the intended thing... it doesn't shuffle because someone won the map.

About unbalanced teams, obviously if tons of players disconnect after a map, or try to stack later, no autoshuffle can solve this. Maybe post condump with /scores in the last map's intermission and /scores after the shuffle, for an example?

 

And I don't think people stack because they are mad at autoshuffle, they stack because they are losers and like all losers they like to win easily or avoid losing too much - or they are just people who play for things like scores/rating/etc. so obviously they try to play vs nubs, otherwise they would get a lower score and they are not stupid if that is their goal.

 

I'll try to get a time window for this thing, I think the best option at this point would be to give shuffle to admins, and leave autoshuffle on for when admins are not around

 

p.s.

you are a whiner ...joking

[SunLight]

There is a slight change now,

still it's on even with admins playing, but the percent is raised to 33% and teams are re-checked again before the shuffle takes place, so if some nubrater disconnets after taking profit from stacking (they usually do, after they get a nice score), that could cancel the shuffle.

 

If it's still not enough  we will see... but stackers will always be there