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Yep, describing the tri-gate transistors in 22nm in Ivy Bridge, what will come in the middle of 2012 - another 20% performance for Intel in addition, what is a prediction of course.

Well, I am affraid, the windows sheduler re-making cant solve the situation when application is programmed in single-thread or n-thread model, only matter what can change is completely re-programming of software, what is impossible. Operating system can´t force the application to work in another model what is the programme model in core of application. Maybe, re-bulding of scheduler and drivers can bring more effectivity in performance/tact relation, but more probably only significant change in revision of chip (or tunning the manufaturing process) can bring the frequency what is essencially needed for highering of BD performance.

http://techreport.co...icles.x/21813/7 Another review to the colection - try to find out 3 differences from other (joke) - stil FX on the tail. edit: In a lot of reviews you can find multi-thread applications, where is FX better than in single-thread, but even in those applications are Sandy Bridge at least comparrable or better. I hope, with some optimisations, will BD improve the score, but we can clearly say it will be not with 20-30% what needs to win the competition... I am talking about threads when describing the application, not about the cores (what is accurate just for describing the hardware - for applications testing is not important if the application goes in eg. 6-thread mode on tripple core with HT, or in 6-threads on 6-core (3-modules with 6 cores), what is important is just the result. For sure, core, however with some common units shared with the second core, will be mode variable (can share and dedicate sources more flexibly)....... there is but one BUT- RESULT. Yes, we can try to think about what is probably better in some situation - however - current situation tolds to us, that the BD concept is not designed and more effective for current single-thread applications, and in a lot of ways is approximatedy equivalent for multi-thread applications we know to Sandy Bridge, what is rapidly more effective on a base performance/tact. The dark side of argumentation of AMD fans is, that they are like you said, finding the cure for disease what currently not exists, but they think it will exist sometime in future What is quite weird is, that we have here multi-core and HT probably from the Pentium 4 generation, what is the year 2002, and native multicores since 2005 (in A-64 X2 series), and still in almost 2012 we have single-thread and low-amount-thread applications here. Do you really think, that from 1.1.2012 will be some multri-thread boom? We all know, and developers do know it as well, that the HW has capabilites what are NOT used and fully implemented in SW area, what means, HW capabilities are MUCH higher than applications CAN use, at this moment. The way is not to dictate the development by HW teams but on contrary, SW business must do the job now. Nothing changes about performance of FX series comparing to Sandy Bridge.

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tdkxeon: Vanaraud: For sure there has to be competion, I remember times when at least mainstream CPU or motzherboard with Intel chipset was sooo expensive that somebody cant imagine. Same thing is for now, Intel has 65% margin and maintains bilions of USD overturn in a quartal. Socond think is on the other hand - anti-monopoly departments all the world are behaving much more friendy to Intel when he is not the only one in this area of business. When AMD will close the CPU division, probably will be Intel forced to divide the company because of oligopolic/monopolistic position in a lot of countries mainly in EU and US. What means, actually the existence of AMD on the CPU field is for Intel benefitial as well! For sure also will come new BIOS and drivers for Bulldozer HW and manufaturers of software will take into consideration completely new architecture of Bulldozer, what needs to be implemented into a game. What is bad is, that AMD promiosses just 10% performance improvement. I was almost sure about buying BD to support AMD but I will not buy a crap, sorry to say, when I can for the same money buy better product. General: Yeah probably I will make a great mix with Sandy Bridge inside, massive overclock, system on SSD drive... what will give me maximum performance. I was almost sure about buying BD, but these informations are cooling my visions enough. SB is better now.

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