brynne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 David and Anthony Mundy dug out the den in their back garden in Pendlebury. They have been handed a suspended jail sentence A father and son built a secret underground cannabis cave 12ft beneath their back garden – and hid the entrance under a paving stone. David Mundy, 54, spent hours digging out the den at the rear of his property on Barr Hill Avenue, Pendlebury, aided by son Anthony, 29. The pair were each sentenced at Manchester Crown Court to 15 week suspended jail sentences for production of a class B drug. They were also ordered to carry out 80 hours of unpaid work. Now David Mundy has been ordered to pay back more than £13,000 he made from selling the drugs. A confiscation hearing was told that officers raided the family home in October 2011 after a tip-off - and discovered the underground entrance beneath the paving flag. To their amazement, they found concealed ladders leading down to the underground farm, running under the surface of the hillside on the East Lancashire Road. The cavern contained 17 plants worth more than £8,000. The confiscation hearing was held yesterday (MON) under the Proceeds of Crime Act at Manchester Crown Court. It was found that Mundy had made £13,480 from his secret drug business. If he fails to repay the cash within six months he will be sent down for a year - and still owe the money. Detective Chief Inspector Dave Riddick, of Greater Manchester Police, said: "Mundy went to considerable lengths - quite literally - to keep his cannabis farm hidden. "What we discovered was an underground drugs den housed within a storage unit, and must have taken him many hours to build, hours that should have been spent earning his money legitimately like the rest of us do. "Thanks to Proceeds of Crime Act legislation, we are now able to ensure that people like Mundy cannot profit from their criminal endeavours. "GMP employs specialist financial investigations who painstakingly trawl through offender's records to find evidence of a lifestyle funded by criminality, and we will claw that money back. "The message is clear: if you think you can bury your criminality underground, you are burying your head in the sand because we will find you and we will do everything we can to take away not only your liberty but also your illegally accumulated wealth." It isn't the first time villains have dug tunnels to commit crime. In January 2012, a gang spent six months digging an underground route from a secluded railway embankment to the ATM beside Blockbuster in Fallowfield. They then drilled up through 15 inches of concrete before swiping several thousand pounds from the machine - and escaping back down the tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hester prynne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 man that sucks. lol at these faggots acting like these guys are such criminals for growing a natural plant. and also lol at the police acting like theyre so crafty for finding the plants when the father and son were snitched on by some butthurt a**h****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat0n Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 man that sucks. lol at these faggots acting like these guys are such criminals for growing a natural plant. and also lol at the police acting like theyre so crafty for finding the plants when the father and son were snitched on by some butthurt a**h****. Natural but illegal and harmful. Moreover they were selling this shit to others, so maybe they're not criminal, still delinquents I'd say, but some months of jail would be still deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFighter Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 already see some far weirder places they actually made a plantage in holland in 1 of their bridges. this was caught by a accident and was extremely large, back then the biggest caught in europe. Also boats, truck, containers under the ground and many other places you would never expect they find these kind of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hester prynne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Natural but illegal and harmful. Moreover they were selling this shit to others, so maybe they're not criminal, still delinquents I'd say, but some months of jail would be still deserved. yes illegal but how exactly is weed harmful? maybe its just my stoner bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brynne Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think, when it smoke every day then its taking your brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat0n Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 yes illegal but how exactly is weed harmful? maybe its just my stoner bias I think, when it smoke every day then its taking your brains. This, among other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrka Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'm sorry but I disagree. daily smoking is harmful but not in sufficient quantities. it is less harmful than cigarettes. it seems to me that if it was legal people would have a different opinion on this subject ... that is my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Smoking marijuana contains less carcinogens than cigarettes, but more tar, if I remember correctly. (comparison based on filtered cigarette vs. joint/pipe smoking) I used to smoke weed in my teens/early 20's, but don't anymore. When treated with the same care as alcohol, I see no harm in its use. No driving, machinery, etc.... I think marijuana laws are a little strict to be honest, and this is from a guy that doesn't even smoke it. Alcohol is actually more dangerous, and one of, if not the biggest contributor to domestic violence, which I have seen first hand. When I would smoke weed, I would just want to hang out with friends, talk, laugh, and eat some good food I hope one day its legalized everywhere for those who choose to use it responsibly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrka Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Smoking marijuana contains less carcinogens than cigarettes, but more tar, if I remember correctly. (comparison based on filtered cigarette vs. joint/pipe smoking) I used to smoke weed in my teens/early 20's, but don't anymore. When treated with the same care as alcohol, I see no harm in its use. No driving, machinery, etc.... I think marijuana laws are a little strict to be honest, and this is from a guy that doesn't even smoke it. Alcohol is actually more dangerous, and one of, if not the biggest contributor to domestic violence, which I have seen first hand. When I would smoke weed, I would just want to hang out with friends, talk, laugh, and eat some good food I hope one day its legalized everywhere for those who choose to use it responsibly. I thought all the time that has less tar than cigarettes, but alcohol certainly worse than it is. but I agree with what you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hester prynne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Smoking marijuana contains less carcinogens than cigarettes, but more tar, if I remember correctly. (comparison based on filtered cigarette vs. joint/pipe smoking) I used to smoke weed in my teens/early 20's, but don't anymore. When treated with the same care as alcohol, I see no harm in its use. No driving, machinery, etc.... I think marijuana laws are a little strict to be honest, and this is from a guy that doesn't even smoke it. Alcohol is actually more dangerous, and one of, if not the biggest contributor to domestic violence, which I have seen first hand. When I would smoke weed, I would just want to hang out with friends, talk, laugh, and eat some good food I hope one day its legalized everywhere for those who choose to use it responsibly. if only everyone had this view. but hey logical thinking unfortunately isnt as common as it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 if only everyone had this view. but hey logical thinking unfortunately isnt as common as it should be. Live and let live Just because I don't smoke weed, doesn't mean I should stop someone else from enjoying it (RESPONSIBLY, of course) Hell, I rarely drink, but I'm not going to go start picket signs to ban alcohol. We're all different and we all like different things in our lives, we become unhappy in life when someone challenges it and takes them from us. Who am I to make someone unhappy? It isn't my place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat0n Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I really don't want to open another debate on drugs, just want to specify that I wouldn't be against the legalization of this kind of drug if everyone was responsible, after all, it's not my health since I don't/won't consume drugs (even if I think that the government should care about its population's health). But it's not the case, and it will probably never be, we see it every day with cigarette and alcohol and even if cannabis isn't that harmful, it's still a drug and you guys don't really seem to know the definition of this word, nor the consequences incurred by consuming it which can't be neglected, with all my respect. From what I know, the only pseudo-harmless substance considered as drug would be caffeine, but I'm not sure about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefke Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) I really don't want to open another debate on drugs, just want to specify that I wouldn't be against the legalization of this kind of drug if everyone was responsible, after all, it's not my health since I don't/won't consume drugs (even if I think that the government should care about its population's health). But it's not the case, and it will probably never be, we see it every day with cigarette and alcohol and even if cannabis isn't that harmful, it's still a drug and you guys don't really seem to know the definition of this word, nor the consequences incurred by consuming it which can't be neglected, with all my respect. From what I know, the only pseudo-harmless substance considered as drug would be caffeine, but I'm not sure about that. drug = A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication. Just saying, that words can have multiple definitions ^^ (although this one actually fits cannabis too ) Euhmmm caffeine in the wrong circumstances kills too (personal experience => no, I didn't die... But a friend of me) my view on cannabis is the same as my view on cigarettes and alcohol: as long you don't endanger other people (driving,...) it should be allowed, we don't need our hands hold by the government (although a country should take care of their citizens => It's a hard balance to nail I know). So in public you can put restrictions... Edited February 6, 2013 by DrJoske 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat0n Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 drug = A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication. Just saying, that words can have multiple definitions ^^ (although this one actually fits cannabis too ) Euhmmm caffeine in the wrong circumstances kills too (personal experience => no, I didn't die... But a friend of me) my view on cannabis is the same as my view on cigarettes and alcohol: as long you don't endanger other people (driving,...) it should be allowed, we don't need our hands hold by the government (although a country should take care of their citizens => It's a hard balance to nail I know). So in public you can put restrictions... Exactly why it should never be allowed, people will never be responsible enough to respect that, proof is given by alcohol and cigarette And yeah, I didn't mean drug as medicament (but I think you all understood it), and I know that cannabis has curative properties, still not sure it's a good idea to legalize it, even only in the hospitals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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